I'm counting on that being the case but we've got to be honest if this run continues and ask ourselves if Amazon is relevant any more. Nov is a shoe in for the PS4 (ignoring Amazon and just going on Pro pre-orders). If Amazon is right this time then it's a HUGE win, if not it's an EASY win. Dec is when we'll actually see if Amazon is screwed up indefinitely.

Latest few months have definitely been off. But maybe Amazon will start to have XB1 deals again that are as attractive as the ones in Gamestop and BestBuy.

If Amazon continues being wrong, I think the threads will see a natural contraction though as fewer people will be interested in the ranks. But as long as Shadow and Gribble are satisfied with the activity to the extent where they bother keep updating the ranks, I don't see why the threads shouldn't continue.

Sales discussions on VGC are a rarity nowadays so we gotta take the little we have.

No bundle surging to #1 yet then like the last few years

Ps4 pro sold out lightning fast on amazon Japan. Back to scalper prices. I guess they really under estimated Japanese demand.

Not that I'd know anything being the one updating the list day in and day out for months and months, but that's not what I remember. Your brief visits to the Amazon thread may well have given you a more 'rounded' view of the trends ... I suppose that's possible ...

The biggest thing that has changed is the situation with bundles you have 1 PS4 slim bundle or the Pro, Xbox One Has 2 500GB, 2 1TB and 2 2TB bundles stocked by Amazon. Also Gamestop has exclusive rights to a 500GB Gears of War bundle that is also $249 and is more attractive price point than the 1TB version on Amazon to the average consumer.

There are other retailers stocking the Halo 5/MCC 500GB bundle for $249 also which Amazon hasn't stocked for quite some time now.

It used to be more simple when we just had Standalone PS4 vs Assassin's Creed Xbox One bundle.

I agree with some of this but the bundles have always been skewed heavily towards the XB1. There have been many times, regardless of the outcome, when the XB1 had upwards of 10 - 15 bundles and the PS4 had only 4, and it didn't affect the outcome at all. I'm hoping it IS only to do with the retailer exclusive bundles and Amazon failing to track certain XB1 SKUs because if it isn't then we'll have to accept Amazon has changed their formula across the board which makes it unreliable from here on out.

Key words were "right now" PS4 will win the month but black Friday should be interesting. 

These are only buying shopping early. We could see a bundle at #1 tomorrow during black Friday.

Hold on a sec ... You specifically said 'Amazon' was showing it to be close. You can't just ignore you said that and change it to a Black friday discussion. What is is about what you see on Amazon that suggests it's a close month?

Lets give Amazon a few more months. If this continues then yeah i agree we shouldn't use it anymore. These threads only exist anyway because vgchartz doesn't update their numbers on time anymore.