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Swordmasterman on 26 November 2016
jason1637 said:
Swordmasterman said:

Cod will also have digital sales, same for any other game. That play first think will give more digital sales for Battlefield, but it won't reach Cod's level despite decline after decline in sales.

The PS4 will be up  YOY this month. The Xbox One has the Gears bundle which will probably sell less than Halo. Battlefield isn't much better than Fallout 4.

There is no reason for the Xbox One to be up YOY but the PS4 don't.

But even on the Xbox store BF1 has been selling more than IW and has had more players. Also its outsold COD in the UK thus far, and even with digital was up from BF4 in Oct NPD.

PS4 could be up but it depends on how the Pro performed. I think it will be flat or slightly down. Also last month the XB1 sold more than it did Oct 2015 which was Halo 5s launch month.

The Xbox One was able to outsell the PS4 by almost 130k in 1 month, the Pro had more preorders. The Pro probably had over 300k of pre-orders. The PS4 being flat would already mean something close to 20% of drop

I just don't see how the Xbox One would be up by 10-15% and the PS4 down 15-25% in order for the Xbox One to win this month, even so, it would not even be by 100k.



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thismeintiel on 26 November 2016
Pionner said:
Was the Gamestop multiple game PS4 bundles for black friday only? They're out of it already. Only the regular Uncharted bundle is available. Too bad as they were outselling everything else.

Sadly, it looks to be the case.  Still, selling 2:1+ over the first XBO SKU, plus Pro ferforming decently, for the day should keep it ahead for the month on Gamestop's site.  You have to remember the VAST majority of sales happen Thurs night through Fri night.  Even in places where they have traded places, it won't matter as sales will have slowed incredibly starting Sat morning.

@ OP

Looks like the XBO is continuing its slow decline.  Out of the Top 20, now.



 

SWORDF1SH on 26 November 2016
Swordmasterman said:
jason1637 said:

But even on the Xbox store BF1 has been selling more than IW and has had more players. Also its outsold COD in the UK thus far, and even with digital was up from BF4 in Oct NPD.

PS4 could be up but it depends on how the Pro performed. I think it will be flat or slightly down. Also last month the XB1 sold more than it did Oct 2015 which was Halo 5s launch month.

The Xbox One was able to outsell the PS4 by almost 130k in 1 month, the Pro had more preorders. The Pro probably had over 300k of pre-orders. The PS4 being flat would already mean something close to 20% of drop

I just don't see how the Xbox One would be up by 10-15% and the PS4 down 15-25% in order for the Xbox One to win this month, even so, it would not even be by 100k.

I think both will be down YOY. That's purely just how I feel. 0.9M Xbox One and 1.2M PS4 is my guess for the month atm.



Swordmasterman on 26 November 2016
SWORDF1SH said:
Swordmasterman said:

The Xbox One was able to outsell the PS4 by almost 130k in 1 month, the Pro had more preorders. The Pro probably had over 300k of pre-orders. The PS4 being flat would already mean something close to 20% of drop

I just don't see how the Xbox One would be up by 10-15% and the PS4 down 15-25% in order for the Xbox One to win this month, even so, it would not even be by 100k.

I think both will be down YOY. That's purely just how I feel. 0.9M Xbox One and 1.2M PS4 is my guess for the month atm.

BO3, Fallout and Star Wars were really big releases. 



jason1637 on 26 November 2016
Swordmasterman said:
jason1637 said:

But even on the Xbox store BF1 has been selling more than IW and has had more players. Also its outsold COD in the UK thus far, and even with digital was up from BF4 in Oct NPD.

PS4 could be up but it depends on how the Pro performed. I think it will be flat or slightly down. Also last month the XB1 sold more than it did Oct 2015 which was Halo 5s launch month.

The Xbox One was able to outsell the PS4 by almost 130k in 1 month, the Pro had more preorders. The Pro probably had over 300k of pre-orders. The PS4 being flat would already mean something close to 20% of drop

I just don't see how the Xbox One would be up by 10-15% and the PS4 down 15-25% in order for the Xbox One to win this month, even so, it would not even be by 100k.

I think the XB1 will be up mostly based on the Slim and how well it's been doing. I think the PS4 will be flat because of the lack of any huge IP like Star Wars or COD pushing it this year but it still has the Pro. 



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SWORDF1SH on 26 November 2016
jason1637 said:
Swordmasterman said:

The Xbox One was able to outsell the PS4 by almost 130k in 1 month, the Pro had more preorders. The Pro probably had over 300k of pre-orders. The PS4 being flat would already mean something close to 20% of drop

I just don't see how the Xbox One would be up by 10-15% and the PS4 down 15-25% in order for the Xbox One to win this month, even so, it would not even be by 100k.

I think the XB1 will be up mostly based on the Slim and how well it's been doing. I think the PS4 will be flat because of the lack of any huge IP like Star Wars or COD pushing it this year but it still has the Pro. 

Didn't MS have more aggressive promotions last year for pretty much the whole of November and had bigger pricecuts? 



jason1637 on 26 November 2016
SWORDF1SH said:
jason1637 said:

I think the XB1 will be up mostly based on the Slim and how well it's been doing. I think the PS4 will be flat because of the lack of any huge IP like Star Wars or COD pushing it this year but it still has the Pro. 

Didn't MS have more aggressive promotions last year for pretty much the whole of November and had bigger pricecuts? 

Last years price cut was the same as this years. $50 to all their bundles. But it seems Sony tried harder this year with many stores giving UC4 bundle and Rachet & Clank with even Gamestop giving UC4 bundle R&C and TLOUR. I think MS knew they would have performed well this year so they probably didn't try as hard. I don't blame them because they've been up for the past few months. They were up even the month Halo 5 launched. 



SWORDF1SH on 26 November 2016
jason1637 said:
SWORDF1SH said:

Didn't MS have more aggressive promotions last year for pretty much the whole of November and had bigger pricecuts? 

Last years price cut was the same as this years. $50 to all their bundles. But it seems Sony tried harder this year with many stores giving UC4 bundle and Rachet & Clank with even Gamestop giving UC4 bundle R&C and TLOUR. I think MS knew they would have performed well this year so they probably didn't try as hard. I don't blame them because they've been up for the past few months. They were up even the month Halo 5 launched. 

I must be remembering it wrong. I thought they had a pricecut, $50 store voucher and free game at various retailers. They definitely had a deal like that at the MS store.



jason1637 on 26 November 2016
SWORDF1SH said:
jason1637 said:

Last years price cut was the same as this years. $50 to all their bundles. But it seems Sony tried harder this year with many stores giving UC4 bundle and Rachet & Clank with even Gamestop giving UC4 bundle R&C and TLOUR. I think MS knew they would have performed well this year so they probably didn't try as hard. I don't blame them because they've been up for the past few months. They were up even the month Halo 5 launched. 

I must be remembering it wrong. I thought they had a pricecut, $50 store voucher and free game at various retailers. They definitely had a deal like that at the MS store.

I remember them giving away NBA 2K16 with the XB1 the week before BF. I do remember them adding an extra controller to some deals.



SWORDF1SH on 26 November 2016
jason1637 said:
SWORDF1SH said:

I must be remembering it wrong. I thought they had a pricecut, $50 store voucher and free game at various retailers. They definitely had a deal like that at the MS store.

I remember them giving away NBA 2K16 with the XB1 the week before BF. I do remember them adding an extra controller to some deals.

Found a link http://www.destructoid.com/xbox-one-black-friday-deal-is-299-60-gift-code-free-game-at-microsoft-store-322613.phtml

I'm sure a few other retailers were doing something similar.