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GoOnKid said:

Guys, it's not only about off-TV or portability, I already adressed that in the OP. It's also about detachable (and therefore switchable) controllers. Now you say that this Morphus x300 did that already a year ago, but why has nobody cared? Nintendo does it and it's a thing now.

The detachable controllers are easily the worst part of the Switch. Why would any want to copy this design? The left controller and right controller will feel completely differently in your hand. The button placements on the controllers is not the same on each. It's an assymmetical mess, that allows far less control than a standard controllers (about half the inputs of a 3DS), and most titles (especially from third parties) will not use this feature very well as a result.



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DonFerrari said:
GoOnKid said:

I already said TWICE that I don't want to blame any compnay for stealing any idea. That's not what this was about.

So reddo your OP and instead of saying copying say they would reinforce their efforts in the same direction, because both companies already had tentatives on these directions before.

You want me to write 'reinforce their efforts in the same direction' instead of 'copying' after I already clarified a long time ago that I had different intentions? How about if I gave you a bucket of ice so you could sit on it to make your butt stop hurting?

You are the same guy who likes to play the semantics game when it comes to the Switch being a hybrid or a console or a handheld or a tablet. I'm not gonna waste my time any longer with you.

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GoOnKid said:
DonFerrari said:

So reddo your OP and instead of saying copying say they would reinforce their efforts in the same direction, because both companies already had tentatives on these directions before.

You want me to write 'reinforce their efforts in the same direction' instead of 'copying' after I already clarified a long time ago that I had different intentions? How about if I gave you a bucket of ice so you could sit on it to make your butt stop hurting?

You are the same guy who likes to play the semantics game when it comes to the Switch being a hybrid or a console or a handheld or a tablet. I'm not gonna waste my time any longer with you.

Perhaps because your words and actions disagree, that isn't playing semantics, that is being clear. When  you say someone is copying someone else the intention is much more direct than in different posts (that may not be read by all, we already have seen in vgc that like 80% of folks don't even read the OP, much less clarifications on other posts) saying "ow that wasn't what I really meant". You can see that by the number of answers you got that denied your "copied" part and the discussions revolving it being copied or not. But since you "clarified" you can pretend to not be part of it.

 

Will you again say I was the one that attacked you and you just responded in kind or you'll own your own attack this time?



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I can't see them copying switch. It's an OK idea but that's it. I can't see many people actually using the thing to play "outside", I mean, unless you're going on a long journey alone then yes but otherwise why would you? We play video games in our houses and we socialise and do other hobbies outside the house, do we really want to be playing our videoGames in the pub or on the park or wherever you go?? It might just be me but videogaming is a indoor home hobby where most people nowadays have got a big HD smart tv to play video games on.



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Alkibiádēs said:
V-r0cK said:

Nintendo is copying this time (and one of the last to finally do it) - in terms of a handheld device that can play games and hooking up to a TV.

The PSP/PSP Go has a charging dock that you can hook up to your TV and play with a Dualshock 3 controller.  Hell it even has home console style games to make it feel like both a portable and home console (ie MGS Peacewalker, GoW, Crisis Core etc..).  Hell even the Sega Nomad was able to hook up to the TV i believe, so maybe Sega was the first to do this.  You can already do similar to this as well with MS Surface Pro tablets.  

I feel like alot of Nintendo fans ignore these innovation from others because they're so in belief that Nintendo is the only one capable of innovating.  Yes Nintendo has innovated a shit load of things, but doesn't mean that they've innovated ever single thing in the video game world.  The only difference that makes the Switch seem better than others is that because they're the last to do this so they have the better/newer technology to impliment more and newer ideas and features.  If Sega's Nomad and the PSP/PSP Go was to be released the same time as the Switch then you better believe it that they'll have similar/new features like the Switch.

Title of the thread should be "Switch finally copies Sony and MS (and Sega)"

That being said,  regardless of Nintendo's late arrival to hybrid console I still can't wait to get the Switch.  I've always loved that feature when I was playing my PSP Go and I'm excited again with Nintendo.

Who on earth wants to play PSP games on a big screen HD TV? This is NOT the same as the Nintendo Switch (and we don't even know all the information yet, so stop pretending this is all the Switch is). You do realize you could already play GAMEBOY games on the SNES with the Super Game Boy (1994)? So if anything, Nintendo certainly was the first. The idea is just fully realized now, and again, Nintendo is the first that's doing so.

But, when the PSP was released, most people didn't have big screen HDTVs. Playing PSP games on an SDTV looked fine. Think of it as the SD version of the Nintendo Switch.  Playing gameboy games on the SNES and then playing them on the go required owning both a gameboy, and an SNES, as well as an adapter, and you had to turn off your game and physically move the cartridge from one device to the other. With the PSP go, the handheld, a PS3 controller and the dock was all you need.

The fact of the matter is the PSP had a dock that allowed you to play PSP games on your television using a PS3 controller, or just take your PSP out of the dock, without powering it off and keep playing that same game on the go. That is the core concept behind the switch. The main difference between the Switch and the PSP go is that the Switch is in HD and the switch has removable controllers.

This is absolutely ridiculous that you're actually trying to claim that the super gameboy is the first realization of the core concept behind the Nintendo Switch.



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No, they're too busy trying to be the main platform for call of duty and fifa.



potato_hamster said:
Alkibiádēs said:

Who on earth wants to play PSP games on a big screen HD TV? This is NOT the same as the Nintendo Switch (and we don't even know all the information yet, so stop pretending this is all the Switch is). You do realize you could already play GAMEBOY games on the SNES with the Super Game Boy (1994)? So if anything, Nintendo certainly was the first. The idea is just fully realized now, and again, Nintendo is the first that's doing so.

But, when the PSP was released, most people didn't have big screen HDTVs. Playing PSP games on an SDTV looked fine. Think of it as the SD version of the Nintendo Switch.  Playing gameboy games on the SNES and then playing them on the go required owning both a gameboy, and an SNES, as well as an adapter, and you had to turn off your game and physically move the cartridge from one device to the other. With the PSP go, the handheld, a PS3 controller and the dock was all you need.

The fact of the matter is the PSP had a dock that allowed you to play PSP games on your television using a PS3 controller, or just take your PSP out of the dock, without powering it off and keep playing that same game on the go. That is the core concept behind the switch. The main difference between the Switch and the PSP go is that the Switch is in HD and the switch has removable controllers.

This is absolutely ridiculous that you're actually trying to claim that the super gameboy is the first realization of the core concept behind the Nintendo Switch.

No, the core concept of the switch is the merge between their handheld and home console divisions. They won't develop games for two systems anymore, but for one. When the PSP was released Sony split their resources between the PSP and PS3, so it's something entirely different.

The Super Gameboy is the exact same idea as playing PSP games on your TV screen, just with more advanced technology.



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GoOnKid said:

Guys, it's not only about off-TV or portability, I already adressed that in the OP. It's also about detachable (and therefore switchable) controllers. Now you say that this Morphus x300 did that already a year ago, but why has nobody cared? Nintendo does it and it's a thing now.

and what is the big deal of this? LOL



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lonerism said:
GoOnKid said:

Guys, it's not only about off-TV or portability, I already adressed that in the OP. It's also about detachable (and therefore switchable) controllers. Now you say that this Morphus x300 did that already a year ago, but why has nobody cared? Nintendo does it and it's a thing now.

and what is the big deal of this? LOL

Custom controllers for specific games. Having the option to play multiplayer without urther inputs on the go. For example.