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Conina on 29 October 2016

Well, over 1000 developers showed interest making Ouya games in 2012... ;)

http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/ouya-over-a-thousand-developers-want-to-make-ouya-games/



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WagnerPaiva on 29 October 2016
collint0101 said:
WagnerPaiva said:
Said it once, will say it again: gotta have a big hard disk to attract the lazy untalented developers that patch their lousy games after release.

You say that like Nintendo has never patched anything before. 

But at least 100GB HDD is a must this time around mate, I know you guys are super high tech and stuff, but most people do not want to mess around with portable HDD and cables to play video games.



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JWeinCom on 29 October 2016
Chrizum said:
JWeinCom said:

It's only worrying if you're determined to interpret it that way.  The list of third parties they have is already pretty respectable, including more or less all of the major developers, and several large developers who had not published anything for Nintendo for years, if ever.  So, to say publishers hardly have any games is a flawed assumption at best.

Considering that these guys already know what the Switch is and, presumably, have devkits, then it's pretty likely that the developers coming forward are more minor developers and indies. 

It's quite possible things don't turn out the way Nintendo wants, but as of the information we have, there is no reason to be exceptionally concerned about third parties.  They certainly seem to be doing much better than they have in the past.

Must admit I missed the word "additional" in the title, so perhaps third parties do have some games ready for the launch period. However, that list of partners doesn't mean anything. It just means they have devkits and are able to develop games, not that they will. Remember EA with their "unprecedented support"?

I really hope Nintendo has learned from their mistakes and really invest in their relationships with publishers (I don't just mean money) but I remain sceptical.

The list means they have probably commited to making games for Nintendo.  Things can obviously change, but I'd assume all of those developers have something in development.  Like I said, plans can change, but from what we know now, that article was nothing to be concerned about.



oniyide on 29 October 2016
JWeinCom said:
Chrizum said:
This is worrying to say the least. Sony and Microsoft involve third parties when developing their consoles. Nintendo keeps third parties in the dark and hopes they'll be on board after a promotion video. Publishers are not customers, they are businesses Nintendo should be cooperating with.

This basically means publishers at this time hardly have any games for the Switch. Most will take a wait and see approach, and with no frontrunners, third parties will stay clear yet again.

It's only worrying if you're determined to interpret it that way.  The list of third parties they have is already pretty respectable, including more or less all of the major developers, and several large developers who had not published anything for Nintendo for years, if ever.  So, to say publishers hardly have any games is a flawed assumption at best.

Considering that these guys already know what the Switch is and, presumably, have devkits, then it's pretty likely that the developers coming forward are more minor developers and indies. 

It's quite possible things don't turn out the way Nintendo wants, but as of the information we have, there is no reason to be exceptionally concerned about third parties.  They certainly seem to be doing much better than they have in the past.

We got a similar list for the Wii U...I think he is taken a cautious approach considering the recent past



jason1637 on 29 October 2016

That's good.



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Platina on 29 October 2016

Wonder who they are talking about, yes

Sounds good so far



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Darwinianevolution on 30 October 2016
Platina said:
Wonder who they are talking about, yes

Sounds good so far

Lots of indie devs, in particular those that work on mobile games. Making games for a tablet that can hook up to the TV is good business for them, specially considering their games aren't hard to port.



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Nuvendil on 30 October 2016
Darwinianevolution said:
Platina said:
Wonder who they are talking about, yes

Sounds good so far

Lots of indie devs, in particular those that work on mobile games. Making games for a tablet that can hook up to the TV is good business for them, specially considering their games aren't hard to port.

Actually, those mobile devs are probably not interested.  Their games are built around the freemium dominated market and poorly suited to the premium dominated market of dedicated gaming platforms.  Mobile games ported to Steam for example have done pretty dang poorly.  And of course not a single solitary one of those mini consoles that used the Android marketplace have taken off or really appealed to these devs because, again, entirely different marketplace.  And I high, highly doubt there's any Android marketplace or App Store marketplace on the Switch.  Like, I *very* strongly doubt it.



Darwinianevolution on 30 October 2016
Nuvendil said:
Darwinianevolution said:

Lots of indie devs, in particular those that work on mobile games. Making games for a tablet that can hook up to the TV is good business for them, specially considering their games aren't hard to port.

Actually, those mobile devs are probably not interested.  Their games are built around the freemium dominated market and poorly suited to the premium dominated market of dedicated gaming platforms.  Mobile games ported to Steam for example have done pretty dang poorly.  And of course not a single solitary one of those mini consoles that used the Android marketplace have taken off or really appealed to these devs because, again, entirely different marketplace.  And I high, highly doubt there's any Android marketplace or App Store marketplace on the Switch.  Like, I *very* strongly doubt it.

I still think the Switch needs the support of apps. It's a tablet, and it's going to need, at least, the social apps to make it appealing as a tablet for the casual gamer interested on it. Plus, small PC indies port their games to the Vita frequently, so there would be no reason to not do the same with the Switch.



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Nuvendil on 30 October 2016
Darwinianevolution said:
Nuvendil said:

Actually, those mobile devs are probably not interested.  Their games are built around the freemium dominated market and poorly suited to the premium dominated market of dedicated gaming platforms.  Mobile games ported to Steam for example have done pretty dang poorly.  And of course not a single solitary one of those mini consoles that used the Android marketplace have taken off or really appealed to these devs because, again, entirely different marketplace.  And I high, highly doubt there's any Android marketplace or App Store marketplace on the Switch.  Like, I *very* strongly doubt it.

I still think the Switch needs the support of apps. It's a tablet, and it's going to need, at least, the social apps to make it appealing as a tablet for the casual gamer interested on it. Plus, small PC indies port their games to the Vita frequently, so there would be no reason to not do the same with the Switch.

I don't think they need app support.  For one, apps have never, ever aided a dedicated gaming device.  Amazon Fire gaming box, the Shield products, the Ouya.  All dedicated hardware dependant on apps, all failed.  And PC indie is a different beast all together than mobile indie.  And Nintendo only needs to be appealing to casuals as a tablet if that's hat they want.  Looking at their reveal video, that's not at all what they want.  The whole video frames it as a purely gaming device, no one even touches the screen, and the target audience was definitely your gamers, not your casuals.  And they are very wise to do that because 1) the tablet war is a bloodbath they REALLY don't need to be in, 2) casuals are fickle as Nintendo already knows, and 3) as a tablet design, it would suck, being - from what we have seen - too heavy, thick, and big to grab your run of the mill tablet casual.  Plus, Nintendo has always stood against the idea of markets eroding the value of games and the mobile is eroded value incarnate.  They'll want to keep that freemium infested madhouse as far away as possible.