I think Switch will do pretty well, but from what I've seen of the system, it is so far removed from where the Playstation and XBox brands are that Nintendo basically is not really competing head on with those devices anymore. Nintendo can call it whatever they want but it's a mobile centric platform, 70% of their own launch video highlighted people playing the device on the road. Nintendo is effectively an all portable hardware company basically now. Right now NS will be the higher end, 3DS the lower end. 

Having said that, given that Nintendo has embraced iOS/Android and is looking to expand their IP, I think a deal with one or both of Sony/MS will happen at some point to ensure Nintendo's IP have the widest reach as they look to move into the movie business and theme parks and all that. 

In return I think Sony and/or MS could agree to make Switch games and also offer Nintendo sweet money-hats. So you could see Halo Switch or Uncharted Switch, it wouldn't just be a one-way street. Especially now that Sony is probably not making a Vita 2 ... there is nothing directly competetive from either Sony/MS to the Switch. If Sony was making Vita 2, that would be a natural competitor but it doesn't look like it's happening. 

So it won't be "Nintendo goez third party dooood OMG!", but I can see Nintendo cutting a deal with one or both but continuing to be their own hardware maker, just on the portable console side, which neither Sony or MS compete with. And it won't be all Nintendo IP, just a few select games of Nintendo's choosing, just like are slow rolling out their IP on iOS/Android for maximum exposure. 

Yet I called the hybrid tablet design, was touting the Tegra X1 chip, and said you would see "real" Nintendo games on iOS (tailored to those platforms but not just random spin-offs like Mario Puzzle Game), and you see that already with Mario Run and Pokemon Go which do contain core play mechanics for those IP (Mario is a platformer, Pokemon Go is about collecting Pokemon). 

Guess I'm just lucky. 

Nintendo is no longer really competing with Sony/MS, as such offering a *few* of their IP titles now and again will only help them in endeavors like the movie business. Switch is a complimentary device to a Playstation or XBox not a replacement, so long as Sony doesn't release a Vita 2, it's all good, and Nintendo can score themselves very lucrative financial incentives and get MS or Sony to support their Switch platform as well. I'm sure Nintendo would not mind a Mario x Minecraft game or Halo Switch. 

I want to see some sales data soon (who else doesn't ?) ...

I have no idea whether the payoff in sacrificing portability for a more premium experience that still doesn't match that of home consoles will be worthwhile ...

I still want to know the price too ...

How many units did the 3ds sell?

That's not going to happen.

I bet if I told you the concept of the Switch and Nintendo making iOS/Android games 2 years ago you would also say that's impossible. 

Nintendo's going to be marketing the NSwitch more like a home console, and it functions as such in addition to being a handheld. Whether they're in a league of their own or not, they're still going to have to compete in the same market as the PS4 and XB1.

Was anyone else talking about a hybrid all-in-one console/portable or the Tegra chip, because I seem to recall taking a lot of flak and attitude from some posters for bringing up both for well over a year now, not just one off guesses. 

I seem to recall you even said the concept of the hybrid was impossible because it would be too similar to the Wii U, well lo and behold. Dual analogs (oh no casuals!) and all. 

Really? So why's 70% of their own demo video showing people playing the system outside the house?

Nintendo can call it whatever they want, it's not a competitor to the PS4 or XB Scorpio, not any more than the DS was to say the XBox 360, and Microsoft even allowed some of its games onto the DS because of that reasoning ... there's no competetion between the two there really so why not. 

nonsense

the Switch is in fact a home console that CAN be used portably. Its a bit of a mix but the trailer simply emphasized the FEATURES. you don't need to go on forever in an ad for people to understand that the system can be played at home- the difficult part is to fully explain how the home console can be used on the go. That's where they needed to inform

also this system is 100% competing with the other home console platforms- gaming and entertainment in general seems to be going in a more casual direction than ever (mobile gaming). If Nintendo successfully gets a lot of casuals to adopt this it will dramatically cut into the other console manufacturer sales.

Bear in mind Microsoft already seems to sort of be going into a direction of trying to merge their home console back with their PC gaming segments (Windows Live anyone?), and frankly Sony still (overall) is financially iffy

Nintendo doesn't need to cut any deals and they ARE competing directly.

All that matters is that this device is somewhat competitive spec wise AND can easily be played from a television set. It will take some of the same market the PS4 and Xone are aiming for. Bear in mind that the majority of gamers are not die hard serious people, the majority are going to be casuals who want to kill a little time or familys 

the announcement of the Switch seems mega positive to me and to a lot of the community, if anything I think the system's potential success will make Nintendo far less to cut any deals

bear in mind the most powerful thing in entertainment whether you're talking about movies, music, video games- are the namebrands and characters and recognizable things

Nintendo doesn't need to cut deals because they already have the hardest thing to get- the IPs. Nintendo has the power of people loving their brands and that alone will keep people returning.

I have to wonder what something like the Playstation truly has to permanently keep people from converting to PC. A lot of the third party games are going to PC and Sony does not have that many giantly popular game brands (God of War, Gran Turismo, what else??)

really bizarre thread. I think most would consider the 'Switch' announcement today insanely well received and I think you're absolutely flawed in thinking if you're truly trying to convince anyone that this is going to be drawing in home console fans. Of course it is. It plugs into the TV and can play awesomely new looking games on a traditional controller. End of story