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mutantsushi on 20 October 2016
superchunk said:
- Switch has the tech partners and Nvidia confirmations to argue that it will be comparable with other home consoles and capable to support any of the 3rd party games.

Um... That's gobbledygook.  Nintendo partnered with AMD before, the same partner as Microsoft for X360.  Was that comparable?
No.  AMD and NVIDIA make chips covering a huge performance spectrum.  Working with them means nothing.  Specs are what matters.

JRPGfan said:
Slimebeast said:
I agree, this is bad communication by Nintendo.
They obviously should point the fact that it's both equally, a hybrid. 

^ this.   Its simple and elegant "its both", consumers will get it instantly and remember it fast.
And theres really nothing to be gain to be gained by going "its firstly a console, we might still do a 3ds replacement".
Im not sure if its because they are worried about 3DS sales if they go "its both", but thats obviously what they should have done.

Right, the entire name and presentation IS about being a hybrid, being "both", but their messaging here runs counter to that.
Whether or not they have a 3DS2 planned, it's pretty clear they continue to make alot of sales on that, and don't want to disupt it.  OK.
But that doesn't mean it's necessary to insanely insist "this is a home console only".  Just avoid taking the issue head on if necessary.
Having two handheld platforms is not inherently incompatable.  Sony has multiple home console platforms, between 3, 4, and Pro.
Being defensive around 3DS is a good or sufficient reason to screw up their messaging on Switch.  
Switch is a Hybrid, that is a Good thing, that is central to it's appeal.  If they can't push that message, then they can't push their own product.



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Frogger on 21 October 2016

"Not a simple replacement."



StuOhQ on 21 October 2016
Nautilus said:
wombat123 said:

I got to say, if that dock isn't some sort of supplemental computing device then I have a hard time seeing the NS succeed. It seems like it's going to be too expensive for casuals and people who prefer handhelds while being too weak (if that dock doesn't add any power) to satisfy core gamers. It looks more like a tablet gaming system that's trying to be a handheld and a console at the same time -- like a jack of all trades, master of none; does a little bit of everything but not enough to satisfy anyone.

Its dosent have an extra GPU there, Nintendo (kinda) confirmed it.They said that the main function of the dock is to connect to the TV and to charge the portable unit.And while they didnt deny the extra GPU, the lack of mention kinda proves there isnt.The source is in IGN, a article they also confirm Amiibo support for Switch(duh).(cant give link because Im on mobile)

Some have pointed out that the dock has vents. That, along with all of the wasted plastic, would make for some serious overkill on a charging station with HDMI out. 



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Soundwave on 21 October 2016

Nintendo honestly believes too much of their own bullshit.

It's a "home console" in a tablet form factor using a mobile chip ... that's whole "hook" is it can be played outside of the home, lol.

Just admit you want to sell some extra 3DS' this holiday and let that be that.



Trunkin on 21 October 2016

Does this meanwe might see a Switch mini down the line? Weaker, smaller, and cheaper than the Switch, but still sharing some of the same library...



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Soundwave on 21 October 2016
Trunkin said:
Does this meanwe might see a Switch mini down the line? Weaker, smaller, and cheaper than the Switch, but still sharing some of the same library...

They can just wait for a 10nm or 7nm die shrink. Changing the chip would cause too many problems running older games, die shrinks allow for a smaller form factor naturally. It just takes time to happen. 



oniyide on 21 October 2016
Soundwave said:
Nintendo honestly believes too much of their own bullshit.

It's a "home console" in a tablet form factor using a mobile chip ... that's whole "hook" is it can be played outside of the home, lol.

Just admit you want to sell some extra 3DS' this holiday and let that be that.

it does feel like they are talking to us like we're stupid



Pemalite on 21 October 2016
Soundwave said:
Trunkin said:
Does this meanwe might see a Switch mini down the line? Weaker, smaller, and cheaper than the Switch, but still sharing some of the same library...

They can just wait for a 10nm or 7nm die shrink. Changing the chip would cause too many problems running older games, die shrinks allow for a smaller form factor naturally. It just takes time to happen. 

A mobile chip like this can typically be financially feasible to drop to 10nm earlier than a larger chip that is in the other consoles.

Samsung has already started mass production of 10nm SoC's via it's 10nm LPE process, 10nm LPP should be ready by early to middle of next year, which is when Nintendo might start considering it.

That's provided this console is a success though which will make such an endeavor financially viable.




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