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Not sure if I should watch it. Does it have sources or is it another conspiracy theory video?



 

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12/22/2016- Made a bet with Ganoncrotch that the first 6 months of 2017 will be worse than 2016. A poll will be made to determine the winner. Loser has to take a picture of them imitating their profile picture.

Bandorr said:

Ask your self this - why would the democrats need to "fake" votes if every site says they are winning by a HUGE margin? 538, 270, real clear etc.

For the same reason it has been done elsewhere many times, because they can. Fake votes and agent provocateurs are commonly used tactics during election, or other political event of any substantial meaning. Risks are usually negligible, benefits are tangible.



A friend posted this video on facebook and I watched it. The first thing you notice is all the edits. No complete start to end conversation but a lot of sound bites made to look like something sinister. I told my friend, I hate videos like this and instantly do not trust them because of all the edits. The friend posted this video to try and give credence to election rigging and we had a very long conversation on exactly how that would work on a national level.



These are going to be the longest 19 days of our lives =(



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Videos like these ones also need to provide the unedited raw footage. It is easy to cherry-pick when editing.

Maybe the dude is telling the truth, but the person who made these videos was also the one that made the Planned Parenthood video.



Trump's ego is too big to admit a loss ever, the dude can barely bring himself to apologize (err ... apple-igize) about anything.

If he does lose maybe it's because he alienated several key voting blocks ... women (the largest voting block), Hispanics, blacks and other "minorities" (which are now actually about 40% of the US population) and isn't doing well with college educated whites either. 

But nah that would make too much fucking sense. 



Bandorr said:
http://www.snopes.com/2016/10/18/project-veritas-election-videos/

Sadly the truth is never as fun as the wild things we make up in our imaginations.
Or as far as a quote goes “sometimes a fuller truth is found on the cutting room floor.”

Misleading questions combined with shady editing = unfounded conspiracies.

Ask your self this - why would the democrats need to "fake" votes if every site says they are winning by a HUGE margin? 538, 270, real clear etc.

Or do you also think THAT is a lie?

Did you not watch the first video? The issue there is that Democrats were paying people to incite violence at Trump rallies. You seem so sure that this is a false conspiracy theory, but Scott Foval, the National Field Director for the left-wing organization Americans United for Change, was FIRED after the first video was released. Is that a coincidence?

As for the polls, I'm not convinced that Trump is actually winning or anything, but you seem to have way too much faith in people who are clearly pushing an agenda. Nearly all of the media and aggregate polling sites are owned and updated by blatently left-wing people, so that doesn't help your case in dismissing poll bias.



hello77 said:
Bandorr said:

Ask your self this - why would the democrats need to "fake" votes if every site says they are winning by a HUGE margin? 538, 270, real clear etc.

For the same reason it has been done elsewhere many times, because they can. Fake votes and agent provocateurs are commonly used tactics during election, or other political event of any substantial meaning. Risks are usually negligible, benefits are tangible.

So are you telling me that only Democrates fake votes on a national level in Republican controled states.  So you are saying that Republicans run states where Democrates can steal elections are so damn good that these incidents of rigging cannot be found.  If that was the case, why the heck do we have a majority of Republicans in the House and Senate.  Exactly why is this rigging only done when the Republicans believe they will lose but when they are winning, nothing is going on.  



Aura7541 said:

 the person who made these videos was also the one that made the Planned Parenthood video.

That is pretty much all one needs to say.  If that is the case I won't even bother wasting my time.