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Xen on 08 October 2016
Attiq said:
Xen said:

I bolded an important part.

What tenets of atheism qualify it as a religion, exactly? My disbelief system is just that, a system that avoids any worries about beliefs. There is no recursive logic here.

I can reply all day round with this. No worries at all. But I will curtail it cause its silly to try to make someone think outside of the box they are in. Whether thats my box or yours you decide. =-)

 

You want to believe you have no belief system and that it's not your religion thats fine. I know better.

Yeah... good luck with all of that.



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umegames on 08 October 2016
Peh said:
LivingMetal said:
Everyone is religious by nature. That would make your entire topic invalid.

Source?

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/religion

3rd definition



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Squall_Leonhart on 08 October 2016

Gaming and religion are both as fictitious as eachother!



Peh on 08 October 2016
umegames said:
Peh said:

Source?

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/religion

3rd definition

Can't see the connection to that first statement. Hiku already responded to it, so I have nothing to add.



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Netyaroze on 08 October 2016
Attiq said:
Xen said:

Definitions as found by google:

Religion: the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.

Atheism:disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.

Where's the proof?

The proof is in your belief system or you could say your disbelief system. Whether or not you recognise it doesn't change the fact its your religion.

No. Atheists do not have any common traditions or rituals. If Atheism is a religion then everything is a religion. Like not believing in Santa Claus. Or not Believing that Zeus exists. The absence of belief is not belief, its the opposite. You cant simply change the meaning of definitions and claim that your definition is the truth. My definition of blue is red so the sky is red because I say so.... 

I for example do not believe there is a god until I have clear evidence. I also do not believe that Rudolf the rednose reindeer flew through the sky even though I cant say for sure that this did not happen.




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Peh on 08 October 2016
Attiq said:
Xen said:

I bolded an important part.

What tenets of atheism qualify it as a religion, exactly? My disbelief system is just that, a system that avoids any worries about beliefs. There is no recursive logic here.

I can reply all day round with this. No worries at all. But I will curtail it cause its silly to try to make someone think outside of the box they are in. Whether thats my box or yours you decide. =-)

 

You want to believe you have no belief system and that it's not your religion thats fine. I know better.

Atheism is not a religion nor a belief system. I don't know why this is so difficult for theists to grasp.



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Slimebeast on 08 October 2016

You can't compare gaming with religion, no. There aren't many similarities.



robzo100 on 08 October 2016
pokoko said:
Religions often make gathering mandatory, either directly or through pressure. Gaming can be as solitary as you want and for many it remains a minor hobby. Those who gather for video-game events are probably in the minority. With gaming, you can pick the bonds you want, it's entirely at your discretion. That's a very important difference.

Great point. However, as I let this ponder in my mind I came to the initial realization that gaming is starting to become mandatory.

Think about it how facebook, although not gun-to-your-head mandatory, it is socially mandatory in a way that is similar to religious mandates for being a participant. If you don't have FB your social life will suffer in some ways, and it's easy to argue how so I won't right now unless you dispute it. We need FB as a log-in for so so many other apps and it has become the framework for social media in general; twitter, instagram, Google+, etc.

Now look at how gaming has evolved. The avatars, the IDs, the system codes and "friends." Miiverse will probably become the new FB for gaming as it evolves into what is now Miitomo and the new NX platform. FB and Miitomo "IDs" may become mandatory gateway's for online communities whether we use the gaming portion of it or not. And considering how gaming is no longer just hardcore gaming but even "non-games" like WiiFit, WiiSports, PokemonGo(running, exercise), and other exercise-apps...perhaps you see where I'm going.

The future I'm getting at is one where entertainment like gaming, movies, sports, e-sports, music, etc., are now fused. And to gain access we need an social-based account. This argument hinges on two things...whether the future really does become more unified and whether FB-Twitter-Instagram-Etc stays relevant as a social glue. I say yes to both of those.



JWeinCom on 08 October 2016
robzo100 said:
pokoko said:
Religions often make gathering mandatory, either directly or through pressure. Gaming can be as solitary as you want and for many it remains a minor hobby. Those who gather for video-game events are probably in the minority. With gaming, you can pick the bonds you want, it's entirely at your discretion. That's a very important difference.

Great point. However, as I let this ponder in my mind I came to the initial realization that gaming is starting to become mandatory.

Think about it how facebook, although not gun-to-your-head mandatory, it is socially mandatory in a way that is similar to religious mandates for being a participant. If you don't have FB your social life will suffer in some ways, and it's easy to argue how so I won't right now unless you dispute it. We need FB as a log-in for so so many other apps and it has become the framework for social media in general; twitter, instagram, Google+, etc.

Now look at how gaming has evolved. The avatars, the IDs, the system codes and "friends." Miiverse will probably become the new FB for gaming as it evolves into what is now Miitomo and the new NX platform. FB and Miitomo "IDs" may become mandatory gateway's for online communities whether we use the gaming portion of it or not. And considering how gaming is no longer just hardcore gaming but even "non-games" like WiiFit, WiiSports, PokemonGo(running, exercise), and other exercise-apps...perhaps you see where I'm going.

The future I'm getting at is one where entertainment like gaming, movies, sports, e-sports, music, etc., are now fused. And to gain access we need an social-based account. This argument hinges on two things...whether the future really does become more unified and whether FB-Twitter-Instagram-Etc stays relevant as a social glue. I say yes to both of those.

Eh... I feel like you're just trying to play devil's advocate, but that's kind of a weak comparison.  I've yet to hear of anyone who was threatened with eternal torture for not gaming, or someone who was ostracized from their community because they liked the wrong kind of game.  



pokoko on 08 October 2016
robzo100 said:
pokoko said:
Religions often make gathering mandatory, either directly or through pressure. Gaming can be as solitary as you want and for many it remains a minor hobby. Those who gather for video-game events are probably in the minority. With gaming, you can pick the bonds you want, it's entirely at your discretion. That's a very important difference.

Great point. However, as I let this ponder in my mind I came to the initial realization that gaming is starting to become mandatory.

Think about it how facebook, although not gun-to-your-head mandatory, it is socially mandatory in a way that is similar to religious mandates for being a participant. If you don't have FB your social life will suffer in some ways, and it's easy to argue how so I won't right now unless you dispute it. We need FB as a log-in for so so many other apps and it has become the framework for social media in general; twitter, instagram, Google+, etc.

Now look at how gaming has evolved. The avatars, the IDs, the system codes and "friends." Miiverse will probably become the new FB for gaming as it evolves into what is now Miitomo and the new NX platform. FB and Miitomo "IDs" may become mandatory gateway's for online communities whether we use the gaming portion of it or not. And considering how gaming is no longer just hardcore gaming but even "non-games" like WiiFit, WiiSports, PokemonGo(running, exercise), and other exercise-apps...perhaps you see where I'm going.

The future I'm getting at is one where entertainment like gaming, movies, sports, e-sports, music, etc., are now fused. And to gain access we need an social-based account. This argument hinges on two things...whether the future really does become more unified and whether FB-Twitter-Instagram-Etc stays relevant as a social glue. I say yes to both of those.

As someone who hasn't checked Face Book in well over a year, you're going to have a hard time proving that to me.