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What match are you excited for at WWE Payback 2017?

Neville vs. Austin Aries ... 1 5.88%
 
Randy Orton vs. Bray Wyat... 3 17.65%
 
The Hardy Boyz vs. Cesaro... 3 17.65%
 
Kevin Owens vs. Chris Jer... 4 23.53%
 
Bayley vs. Alexa Bliss (Raw Women's Title) 3 17.65%
 
Seth Rollins vs. Samoa Joe 1 5.88%
 
Roman Reigns vs. Braun Strowman 2 11.76%
 
Total:17

In her match, Chelsea Green used the Rough Ryder which was referred to as the Rough Ryder.

The finals of this tournament for the US Women's title is taking place in Long Island on Saturday Night Main Event.

I wonder if maybe there is someone from Long Island that Chelsea knows that might appear........



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So is it just me, or was anyone else at the end of that Bloodline WarGames match waiting for the "IF YA SMELL..."?



PAOerfulone said:

So is it just me, or was anyone else at the end of that Bloodline WarGames match waiting for the "IF YA SMELL..."?

Not necessarily for that, but I did feel like maybe there should have been some kind of surprise at the end. 



That may have been, top to bottom, the best episode of RAW in over a decade.

Masterful storytelling - And it's not even the Bloodline that was the best part.

The death of the New Day as we knew it with Kofi and Xavier turning on Big E... That hurts worse than the Shield breakup did. That may go down as one of the biggest Heel turns in wrestling history.



PAOerfulone said:

That may have been, top to bottom, the best episode of RAW in over a decade.

Masterful storytelling - And it's not even the Bloodline that was the best part.

The death of the New Day as we knew it with Kofi and Xavier turning on Big E... That hurts worse than the Shield breakup did. That may go down as one of the biggest Heel turns in wrestling history.

Twas a very well done Strickland. For the last couple of months it seemed like Woods would turn or, as a surprise, Big E would come back and fix it all. But they knew i was expecting the surprise so they double surprised me. The clever SOBs.



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Still picking away at Survivor Series.

If I could put on my pedantic non-kayfabe hat for a comment.
During the Walter/Gunther vs Priest match, I saw some missed opportunities by the commentators to aid the storytelling. The camera team did their job, showing Priest selling the shoulder, and Walter looking at it - but the commentary did nothing to aid this. I'm assuming they see what the cameras see, so it's kind of their fault, but whoever is in their ear (director? producer?) also should have noted that to them to call it out. Just little things like that which, IMO felt like a disconnect between the camera team and performers and the commentary/production.

Also, if Priest oversold anymore, he'd be Chris Benoit - IMO, sometimes less is more, little reminders of the injury are good, save the big ones for when the opponent is working the injured shoulder to make it look like he's fighting through it - that's just my opinion, a lot of the greats (IMO) oversell a lot, even guys you don't expect it from, like The Rock, did it from time to time.

Also, Priest's next big match should be a complete destruction of Balor. But overall, this didn't feel like the end of the Walter/Priest story, not sure if they'll cap it off at Royal Rumble or Wrestlemania, or have one screw the other over, and finish it later in 2025.

I think Walter should hold the title for quite some time, yet. He has Aleksander Karelin vibes (Although Karelin was Leviathan era Batista size, bigger than Lesnar - Karelin was the greatest wrestler in history, but that's as far as my respect for the guy goes).

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Jumpin said:

Still picking away at Survivor Series.

If I could put on my pedantic non-kayfabe hat for a comment.
During the Walter/Gunther vs Priest match, I saw some missed opportunities by the commentators to aid the storytelling. The camera team did their job, showing Priest selling the shoulder, and Walter looking at it - but the commentary did nothing to aid this. I'm assuming they see what the cameras see, so it's kind of their fault, but whoever is in their ear (director? producer?) also should have noted that to them to call it out. Just little things like that which, IMO felt like a disconnect between the camera team and performers and the commentary/production.

Also, if Priest oversold anymore, he'd be Chris Benoit - IMO, sometimes less is more, little reminders of the injury are good, save the big ones for when the opponent is working the injured shoulder to make it look like he's fighting through it - that's just my opinion, a lot of the greats (IMO) oversell a lot, even guys you don't expect it from, like The Rock, did it from time to time.

Also, Priest's next big match should be a complete destruction of Balor. But overall, this didn't feel like the end of the Walter/Priest story, not sure if they'll cap it off at Royal Rumble or Wrestlemania, or have one screw the other over, and finish it later in 2025.

I think Walter should hold the title for quite some time, yet. He has Aleksander Karelin vibes (Although Karelin was Leviathan era Batista size, bigger than Lesnar - Karelin was the greatest wrestler in history, but that's as far as my respect for the guy goes).

Announcers typically watch the feed rather than the ring specifically so that they can see what the TV audience is seeing, since the live audience doesn't hear them.

Priest is just kind of missing something for me. It's just not clicking. Doesn't mean it never will, cause I'd have said the same about Liv Morgan, and she's great in her new role. But at this point, I'd much rather see Balor pushed. 



JWeinCom said:
Jumpin said:

Still picking away at Survivor Series.

If I could put on my pedantic non-kayfabe hat for a comment.
During the Walter/Gunther vs Priest match, I saw some missed opportunities by the commentators to aid the storytelling. The camera team did their job, showing Priest selling the shoulder, and Walter looking at it - but the commentary did nothing to aid this. I'm assuming they see what the cameras see, so it's kind of their fault, but whoever is in their ear (director? producer?) also should have noted that to them to call it out. Just little things like that which, IMO felt like a disconnect between the camera team and performers and the commentary/production.

Also, if Priest oversold anymore, he'd be Chris Benoit - IMO, sometimes less is more, little reminders of the injury are good, save the big ones for when the opponent is working the injured shoulder to make it look like he's fighting through it - that's just my opinion, a lot of the greats (IMO) oversell a lot, even guys you don't expect it from, like The Rock, did it from time to time.

Also, Priest's next big match should be a complete destruction of Balor. But overall, this didn't feel like the end of the Walter/Priest story, not sure if they'll cap it off at Royal Rumble or Wrestlemania, or have one screw the other over, and finish it later in 2025.

I think Walter should hold the title for quite some time, yet. He has Aleksander Karelin vibes (Although Karelin was Leviathan era Batista size, bigger than Lesnar - Karelin was the greatest wrestler in history, but that's as far as my respect for the guy goes).

Announcers typically watch the feed rather than the ring specifically so that they can see what the TV audience is seeing, since the live audience doesn't hear them.

Priest is just kind of missing something for me. It's just not clicking. Doesn't mean it never will, cause I'd have said the same about Liv Morgan, and she's great in her new role. But at this point, I'd much rather see Balor pushed. 

Priest is an introvert. That could be it.

Either way, continuing the PPV, I'm watching the main event now. I'm wondering how the two bloodlines will have knees in the future (particularly the bigger guys, Solo landed weird from the top ropes, keeping his legs locked straight rather than rolling through.

And I think Bronson Reed just stole the whole match with that insane table tsunami splash from the top of the cage. The refs rolling all the dangerous debris out the ring were the real heroes! 😆



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Match of the year candidate. Definitely up there with my favourites of the year. I’d say, tied with the women’s MitB Ladder match. It’s a little surprising that these guys did all that insane stuff given they didn’t really have to. But they have highlight reel material that will last forever. Reminds me of the time Benoit did that insane headbutt off the cage, severely injuring his neck - almost breaking it.

From what I’m reading, three of them (Bronson Reed, Jimmy USO, and Tonga Loa) were injured with Tonga and Bronson requiring surgery.



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Apparently TKO has indicated they might bring Summerslam to 2 nights.

I think that makes a lot of sense. Usually Summerslam feels like the Wrestlemania of the Summer, not quite Wrestlemania, but the next best thing. But, while other events have improved, become bigger, Summerslam almost feels like it's degraded a little - there are several events clearly more entertaining and satisfying than Summerslam this year. The two nights, having a bigger focus on the show. Really hammering home the "Summerslam Season" beginning at King/Queen of the Ring would bring that back. Build the Summer into a season to look forward to in Wrestling. Year 2000, height of the Attitude era, the era of The Rock, the summer season was on par with Wrestlemania season. I'd like to see that again.

Watching last week's RAW now. I let out a big groan when Seth Rollins stepped into the ring, but you know what? Zayn vs Rollins is compelling. I think CM Punk vs Roman is by far the most interesting prospective feud. And if there's gonna be a third man, Lesnar, not Rollins.

While the obvious direction for Punk is winning Elimination Chamber (if not the Rumble), and Roman getting the title and regaining the tribal chiefdom crown from Solo at Royal Rumble, there is a more interesting direction.
1. Have Punk cash his Heyman favour for Solo. Punk takes the title, Solo stays Chief.
2. Roman now has a new priority, he's pissed! He goes for Punk.
3. Solo stays chief, leaving the opportunity open for a Jacob Fatu rebellion.

That's what I'd like to see, at least. I know fans hate it when they divert from the expectation; but, I tend to enjoy it.

Holy fuck! Katana Chance robbed that match blind, but didn't win. She fucking jumped from the turnbuckle, ran across Dakota Kai's back, jumps and almost lands the perfect hurricanrana on Baszler... then follows it up with a 450 splash! I still remember the day when the WWF women's division was more of a side show gimmick thing with mud wrestling and bra and panties matches, where like 2 of them could wrestle (Jackie and Ivory, particularly after Luna left), and the most impressive move was Lita getting up and taking 20 to 45 seconds to set up a moonsault/hurricanrana. Women's wrestling was always there, just on a different continent with talent like Lioness Asuka and Megumi Kudo - the women's matches in Japan from that period are still impressive by today's standards.

Update (December 10)

I figured I'd update this rather than posting any more consecutive responses to this thread. Finished RAW (last week's), great follow up show to Survivor Series. Thickening the plot by having Jey being injured, Sami blaming Seth, and then Drew Mcintyre turning out to be the culprit. The New Day segment was also great. I feel like these shorter RAWs have the "all killer no filler" feeling to them that they had in the later Attitude era. I'm assuming they're going back to three when they get to Netflix, so I wonder if they're going to step up production so they can maintain the pace that they have going right now? Either way, I'll probably be watching them across 2-3 days (usually in the mornings as I'm getting ready for work), rather than all at once.

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