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JRPGfan said:
Dark_Feanor said:
Am I reading it right? The PS4 pro will have sold 70mi by the end of next year?
That is kind of delusional.

I think they ment that the PS4 (pro+normal+slim) will be over 70m by then.

This doesnt make any sense. Is MS recalling all XOs and dumping them next to Galaxy Note 7 ?



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JRPGfan said:
So how long until PSVR has outsold Vive & Occulus Rift? if you had to guess?

I say this very month. As far as im aware neither the rift or vive sold anyware close to amillion so far. I wuld say not even cmbined have they sold a million yet. There is just not enoughf compelling sotware for vr to take off yet. On hype alone psvr will sell more this month.



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Dark_Feanor said:
JRPGfan said:

I think they ment that the PS4 (pro+normal+slim) will be over 70m by then.

This doesnt make any sense. Is MS recalling all XOs and dumping them next to Galaxy Note 7 ?

People are assumeing that the Scorpio is actually Xbox Two, a new gen started early by MS. 



JRPGfan said:
Dark_Feanor said:

This doesnt make any sense. Is MS recalling all XOs and dumping them next to Galaxy Note 7 ?

People are assumeing that the Scorpio is actually Xbox Two, a new gen started early by MS. 

This is what i'm thinking too. I don't think Xbox Scorprio is a simple revision, is a new console.



3 hours since last update:

HARDWARE
#01 PSVR Launch Bundle (same)
#04 PSVR Headset (same)
#27 PS4 Pro (same)*
#50 PS4 Fool's Edition (up 3)
#60 PS4s UC4 Bundle (down 2)
#76 PS4 UC4 Bundle (down 4)
#88 XB1s-2tb Gears Bundle (down 1)
#89 N3DSXL Galaxy (down 5)

Does not affect this month (*)

SOFTWARE (pre-orders only)
#05 3DS Pokemon Moon (up 3)
#07 3DS Pokemon Sun (up 2)
#38 PS4 World Of Final Fantasy (down 1)

PS4: 4 in the top 100 / 2 in the top 50 / 0 in the top 20 / 0 in the top 10
XB1: 1 in the top 100 / 0 in the top 50 / 0 in the top 20 / 0 in the top 10

Plenty of PSVR games selling well, some in the top 20.



 

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GribbleGrunger said:

3 hours since last update:

HARDWARE
#01 PSVR Launch Bundle (same)
#04 PSVR Headset (same)
#27 PS4 Pro (same)*
#50 PS4 Fool's Edition (up 3)
#60 PS4s UC4 Bundle (down 2)
#76 PS4 UC4 Bundle (down 4)
#88 XB1s-2tb Gears Bundle (down 1)
#89 N3DSXL Galaxy (down 5)

Does not affect this month (*)

SOFTWARE (pre-orders only)
#05 3DS Pokemon Moon (up 3)
#07 3DS Pokemon Sun (up 2)
#38 PS4 World Of Final Fantasy (down 1)

PS4: 4 in the top 100 / 2 in the top 50 / 0 in the top 20 / 0 in the top 10
XB1: 1 in the top 100 / 0 in the top 50 / 0 in the top 20 / 0 in the top 10

Plenty of PSVR games selling well, some in the top 20.

Damn! where the <@#$*&%> is the BF1 X1s bundle, the thing just disappeared! At this rhythm ps4 will take october and will beat X1 in a month whit Gears and Battlefield launch bundles. huge win for ps4!



Ryng_Tolu said:
CGI-Quality said:

No, you aren't reading it right:

"PS4 will have a 70m userbase advantage over NX or Scorpio by next Fall"

Assuming PS4 will end at 55 million this year, that's would be 19.1 million sold in 2016. I don't see 2017 be bigger than that with Slim / Pro this holidays. Even if we assume it will sell 20 million, that's a total of 75 million by end of 2017, and i holestly think this is very optimist.

That said no, even with 75 million, really can't see NX only sells 5 million next year. 3DS first year shipped 15 million, 1/3 of that is just too low.

The year start in March for Sony. They sold over 35-36 millions last march and expect to sell a total of 55-56 millions  in march of 2017(can be more, can be less.). 14-15 Millions in 3 quarters, when they shipped 7-9 millions  in the quarter of the previous year, isn't too hard.

A lot of PS4  exclusives will launch in the first quarter of the year. They will have both the increase by PSVR and Pro in 2016 and will have a good  first quarter, while the Xbox One will be in the worse season of the year.

 

The Xbox One usually has a weak 1-2 quarter, because Microsoft launch the majority of the games in the holidays. But, that year, people will be waiting for the Scorpio. There is really little to no sense to not launch the Scorpio in the holidays, but 2-3 months prior.



GribbleGrunger said:

3 hours since last update:

HARDWARE
#01 PSVR Launch Bundle (new entry)
#04 PSVR Headset (new entry)
#34 PS4 Pro (down 3)*
#51 PS4 Fool's Edition (down 8)
#56 PS4s UC4 Bundle (up 5)
#70 PS4 UC4 Bundle (down 2)
#82 N3DSXL Galaxy (down 1)
#86 XB1s-2tb Gears Bundle (down 2)
#90 N3DSXL Black (down 5)

Does not affect this month (*)

SOFTWARE (pre-orders only)
#07 3DS Pokemon Moon (down 1)
#08 3DS Pokemon Sun (down 1)
#38 PS4 World Of Final Fantasy (down 5)

PS4: 4 in the top 100 / 1 in the top 50 / 0 in the top 20 / 0 in the top 10
XB1: 1 in the top 100 / 0 in the top 50 / 0 in the top 20 / 0 in the top 10

I'm not going to call this month yet ... but I'm tempted. If this continues through this month, what the hell is Nov and Dec going to be like when the Pro actually launches?

PSVR Bonus:

UK #11
France #06
Italy #10
Spain #02
Japan #02


Soon we will see if  people will really shift to Battlefield or if they will stay with Cod.



Swordmasterman said:

Soon we will see if  people will really shift to Battlefield or if they will stay with Cod.

I think we both know the answer to that.



 

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Swordmasterman said:

Soon we will see if  people will really shift to Battlefield or if they will stay with Cod.

I'm skipping COD, and just going with BF1. That being said I don't think BF will ever outsell COD. COD has the casual market locked down.