Because you and Mafioso were the ones that were fanning before anyone in the thread was fanning in the other direction.

because of this:

Thats a "slight" that implies

1) PS4pro is too weak to do real 4k. Which I think most know, it will have few native 4k games. Most will be checkerboarded upscaled.

2) it implies if you "wait" (ei dont buy this sh*t), you can get "real" native 4k, at this price.

3) its obvious hes saying get a scorpio.

He started this situation. And hes wrong.

Xbox Scorpio will likely not run all games at native 4k either (just like the PS4).

It will have some games at native 4k (more than PS4pro). Most will probably be upscaled to 4k (just like the PS4pro).

"at this price"  Hes wrong or lieing, he doesnt know the price of the xbox scorpio.

Phil Spencer just today said basically "dont worry it wont be over 600$".

How do you take that to mean it will be 399$? you dont say that if your console is comeing out at a normal (399$ ish) price range.

Its going to be over 400$ if you apply a little bit of logic to what Phil Spencer said.

The thing is you keep including me. You do know I wasn't here when he was, don't you? I simply came in to read the thread, noticed someone saying "Scorpio probably won't have 4K games" and then replied with "you're wrong". 

Are you referring to the post before? If so, I was referring to the audience ("show people native 4K games and watch their precious heads explode"). If you think anything beyond those words as I am presenting it to you, then you're making a storm in a glass of water. 

I didn't say anything offensive. Get over it! 

Are you stricken with dementia?

That's you.

Right there. 

Immediately after Mafioso, but before JRPGfan made his comment.

Fanning the fire of a console war in a thread that was about the "oohs" and "awes" of PS4Pro, not a resolution contest between and unveiled console and a console that is completely unconfirmed outside of existence, name, processor, and goalposts.

AsGryffynn ofc there will be some 4k native games for it.

Even the PS4pro has some native 4k games.

But not all games on it will be 4k. Some of them will be upscaled to 4k. Just like the PS4pro (but fewer, and less upscaleing).

Can you admit that much? MS said they wont force any developer to make games be 4k for the scorpio. That alone tells you not all games will be 4k.

Its going to have to upscale alot of games probably. Just like the PS4pro.

Why are you argueing that? theres nothing wrong with it. 

Its just annouying to read Xbox fans, come into a thread and go "but ours will have real 4k".

When that most likely isnt true, they will have upscaled 4k games as well.

And why are we discussing this when its still 1year away?

Well, how he sees it and how I do are different things. I am only stating it will have native 4K games. I took it at face value. If he intended it other way, I want no association with the guy. 

In other words, don't think any of it. I will buy one, but if you want a Pro be my guest. My only implications were how it will have 4K games, how there are GPUs allowing for an $400 price and how F4 will release it's Virtual Reality update on MS plastic anvil. 

On the price point though, it depends on what you take for "premium" price or more accurately "premium device". Price and device are often different and I remember hearing Spencer mention Premium when referring to the box rather than pricing. 

Besides this, I did want to satirically mention how Godzilla won't surprise these guys... 

At this point I honestly cant tell if Im being trolled here. Well played AsGryffynn.
I guess i ll just stay out of this thread.

That's quite enough from all of you. Not only have you dragged this thread off-topic, but you've done so in an infuriatingly boring way. I'd rather watch kids argue over who farted than read this. 

Any comments continuing this discussion past mine will be moderated. 

Oh, the comment I already stated didn't refer to the bloody fandom but to the damn audience? 

(Because seriously, originally, my comment was how these guys probably wouldn't react to Godzilla, but 4K might lead to headbusting)... 

Whatever it was Mafioso was referring to it wasn't what I was referring to. I was referring to native 4K. If I didn't care for the Xbox, odds are the phrase wouldn't have changed. 

Heck, the comment was my reaction to looking at the inexpressive oohs and ahhs of the rigid faced people in the video, not some console war rambling. I have stated time and again I have no interest in them to start with! 

Already? I thought we'd see upgrades during the holidays. Not right away... Unless someone was planning for a 4K exclusive release to show what the console can do when rendering native 4K. 

I understand not all games will do 4K. It's a benefit few people can see. Odds are we will simply see a lot of games rendering at 1440p and realistic graphics (inb4 this phrase ends up beaten to death). 

I was never arguing all of them would be at 4K. I was arguing we'd eventually see games rendered natively at 4K... 

Oh, I was never trolling you. I just wanted to put this out there. 

By the way, are there already games rendering at native 4K. If so, I'd rather watch the press reacting to those!