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Should USA ban Muslims?

Yes USA should ban Muslims 58 41.13%
 
No USA should not ban Muslims 83 58.87%
 
Total:141

Yesterday they're two bombings . One in Elizabeth, New Jersey and the other in New York Chelsea area. 29 people injured but none killed.

Suspect is Ahmad Khan Rahami born in Afghanistan but a US citizen. Captured today in Linden, New Jersey.  Suspect is Muslim.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/19/us/new-york-explosion-investigation/index.html

 



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They should ban the NSA for not doing their job properly.



If you demand respect or gratitude for your volunteer work, you're doing volunteering wrong.

If Islam is a religion of peace, religious fundamentalists should be the most peaceful.

I saw this as a person raised in a Muslim household before you call me racist.



People voting for "ban muslims" are racists. It's insane that it's ~ 50/50...



I don't think banning an entire religion is fair or even logistically possible, beyond that how would you even implement such a "ban"? For something seeking to do harm specifically in retaliation of such a policy, it would be pretty easy to simply get a fake ID, there are plenty of Muslims who are fair skinned and have light eyes, so the whole "lets profile the guy who looks like Bin Laden" wouldn't necessarily work either.

Implimentation of such a policy would likely directly lead to more attacks not less, as it would make the US a bigger target and it would shame hundreds of thousands of completely innocent people and likely also fuel more hate crimes. 

There should be greater vetting of people and a better screening process, I would agree with that, but it should be done in a way that respects the dignity of all people. Creating a system that antagonizes people and humilates them in public isn't going to help anyone. But you can't stop every crime from happening.

We don't ban cell phones even though they kill hundreds of people every year in traffic accidents, terrorism in the US kills maybe 5-10 people on average/year in the US. It's a problem for sure, but it also helps to have some perspective. 



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I think the issue is the respose from politicans is that terror is the new normal which to a lot if people is uneasy.


People will accept it but then the attacks go from ameatur attacks to attacks like Nice France and then people will respond with anger and panic like in France.



What a surprise. How the hell do these people manage to do these kind of things without being suspected?



LadyJasmine said:
I think the issue is the repose from the left is that terror is the new normal.

People will accept it but then the attacks go from ameatur attacks to attacks like Nice France and then people will respond with anger.

What can you do though? Just like you can't stop every crime from happening, it's very hard to stop one or two people from going out and doing something stupid. 

Even if you had a "Muslim ban" it would be fairly easy for people to beat the ban. 1/3 of the world's population is Muslim that all look different, IMO all such a policy would do is drive a certain number of people to purposely want to strike the US or US citizens in retataltion for such a policy. 

And a "questionaire" would be stupid too, anyone could just answer the questions a certain way and get through. 

The better solution is to vet people harder who are coming from the Middle East (hate to say it, but it is what it is), but to do so in a way that doesn't make a big fuss/song and dance about it and is streamlined and quick, so you're not getting into things like dragging people out of line and forcing them to dump their luggage in front of 300 other people. 

We need to have a system that works, but does so without humilating people who just want to go to Disneyland or something. 



Ha Ha a Muslim band. That's rich, we can't even enforce our immigration laws.



Ban people of a certain religion is just ridiculous. It would do more harm than good.