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GribbleGrunger on 07 September 2016

When the PS3 had a Blu-ray player and other consoles didn't it was:

'Who cares, streaming is the future.'

Now that the streaming is the future and Sony have deals with Netflix, Youtube and have their own PSVue:

'Who cares about streaming, we want a 4K blu-ray player.'

It's so obvious why Sony left this out and yet I'm even seeing the SO CALLED gaming media scratching their heads. I can't believe how stupid and short sighted this industry is. It's as if they're still taking baby steps and don't quite understand how grown ups run.

I'm not even willing to debate this with people. I'd feel dumber for doing it.



 

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alternine on 07 September 2016
GribbleGrunger said:

When the PS3 had a Blu-ray player and other consoles didn't it was:

'Who cares, streaming is the future.'

Now that the streaming is the future and Sony have deals with Netflix, Youtube and have their own PSVue:

'Who cares about streaming, we want a 4K blu-ray player.'

It's so obvious why Sony left this out and yet I'm even seeing the SO CALLED gaming media scratching their heads. I can't believe how stupid and short sighted this industry is. It's as if they're still taking baby steps and don't quite understand how grown ups run.

I'm not even willing to debate this with people. I'd feel dumber for doing it.

Exactly. Have you seen GameoverGreggy and Notaxation's Twitter feeds? The reaction is just astounding to me lol



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Mafioso on 07 September 2016

They dropped the ball. No excusing it.

If they are targeting 4K users with an upgrade but lacks the one feature that would allow the best use of their 4K HDR display....they will have a messaging problem, specially those in retail on the floor that help sell them to new tv buyers.

I'm curious how they'll advertise it on the box....Playstations have always carried the latest physical media players...until this came along.



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GribbleGrunger on 07 September 2016
alternine said:

Exactly. Have you seen GameoverGreggy and Notaxation's Twitter feeds? The reaction is just astounding to me lol

It's embarrassing to watch. I've got all the respect for the Kinda Funny team but my God they're sometimes frigin' dumb.



 

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SvennoJ on 07 September 2016
irstupid said:
SvennoJ said:

Yeah, blu-ray never really got passed 50% market share and this year digital will overtake physical revenue in the US, already did in the UK.
http://www.cityam.com/240500/netflix-and-kill-digital-movie-sales-overtake-dvds-for-the-first-time
Funny how they still lump blu-ray with dvd :/

It's a shame. I love physical media and all the extras that come on the disc. My internet has trouble keeping up with Netflix' so called 1080p 'quality'. It looks like my hobby is about to become a lot more expensive. Well actually back to when I was buying LaserDiscs, yet nowadays it feels a lot more expensive to pay $35 for movies.

Thank God blu ray discs are smaller than Laserdisks though eh.

Can't imagine if I collected Vinyl records as well. When I had Laserdiscs, it damn near looked like it. Then having to get up and flip the disc over halfway through the movie. lol, good times. 

I had one of those fancy auto flipping machines (the head, not the disc ofcourse). That didn't help with movies that came on multiple discs!
Too bad my player broke, and my old amp with AC3 RF port has been retired. I still have some very heavy moving boxes filled with them, yet replaced most of them with blu-ray versions. The last time I watched a LaserDisc was on an 34" HD ready CRT tv, it did not compare to blu-ray, was already behind DVD by quite a bit when DVD got going. Although LD analog video noise was less intrusive than mpeg artifacting on DVD.

The artwork on the covers still is very cool though.



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irstupid on 07 September 2016
SvennoJ said:
irstupid said:

Thank God blu ray discs are smaller than Laserdisks though eh.

Can't imagine if I collected Vinyl records as well. When I had Laserdiscs, it damn near looked like it. Then having to get up and flip the disc over halfway through the movie. lol, good times. 

I had one of those fancy auto flipping machines (the head, not the disc ofcourse). That didn't help with movies that came on multiple discs!
Too bad my player broke, and my old amp with AC3 RF port has been retired. I still have some very heavy moving boxes filled with them, yet replaced most of them with blu-ray versions. The last time I watched a LaserDisc was on an 34" HD ready CRT tv, it did not compare to blu-ray, was already behind DVD by quite a bit when DVD got going. Although LD analog video noise was less intrusive than mpeg artifacting on DVD.

The artwork on the covers still is very cool though.

The Star Wars were on 3 sides I believe.

But you could watch Ms. Doubtfire then without flipping. Very nice.  (Ms. Doubtfire was my favorite Laserdisc)

I dont' recal what TV we watched on. It was in a prebuilt entertainment system which has a 40" flat screen in front of now. THe Flat screen is wider than the opening, so I can't imagine it was too big. Though back then tv's were square and not rectangles like now, so coudl have been same size technically.

We recently threw all our out I think 2 years ago. Had replaced all the movies we liked, just took up space. 



plip.plop on 07 September 2016

My only gripe with the PS4 Pro (because it affects me personally). I'm glad it's going to allow 4k streaming, but I will never use this feature. Unfortunately, I live in an area where Comcast has decided to put a monthly data cap on me. Being that 4k streaming content is a hog, (I also heard the compression makes it not look as good too) I need to stick to physical media for now.

Does Sony feel that UHD is a fad by not putting it in either new system says alot to me.



Lawlight on 07 September 2016
freebs2 said:
Lawlight said:
In any case, I'd like to how many people buy blu-rays, let alone 4k blu-rays?

In absolute terms I'd say many, not that many compared to Netflix and streaming users (at least in the countries where those services are really viable).

But the point is another. Sony (and Playstation) always played an active role in the introduction of new formats (since there simply aren't other TV devices that move as many units as PS consoles). Blu-rays and DVDs weren't that much popular as well at the time they released the Ps3 and the Ps2 respectively.

More than a reaction to the market, they deliberately decided they don't care that much about blu-rays and they want to focus soley on gaming. Of course they're free to do so, but at the same time it's perfectly understandable some users aren't exactly happy about it.

They moved away from that with the PS4. No CD player, no media server capabilities and it was an amazing success. 



NobleTeam360 on 07 September 2016

I'm really hoping we get some good sales on 4ktv's this holiday, gonna need one.



irstupid on 07 September 2016
plip.plop said:
My only gripe with the PS4 Pro (because it affects me personally). I'm glad it's going to allow 4k streaming, but I will never use this feature. Unfortunately, I live in an area where Comcast has decided to put a monthly data cap on me. Being that 4k streaming content is a hog, (I also heard the compression makes it not look as good too) I need to stick to physical media for now.

Does Sony feel that UHD is a fad by not putting it in either new system says alot to me.

Ha yea, my internet right now caps me at 12 I think.

He was over fixing something recently and I asked him about it and he was like "oh you don't need more than that. You can have like 4 people watching netflix at once at 12 mb"

I didn't argue, but then I looked online at Netflix page to see if I wanted to upgrade for $2 a month for 4k and hdr content. They say on the site that you need 20 mb internet. I'm like, "well shit. No reason to upgrade then"