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RolStoppable said:
SWORDF1SH said:

So about 100% up if you take a week off June. That sounds about the boost Xbox will get August. 

85%. Ryng_Tolu already posted this adjusted increase for the weekly average.

But I do not remember if the 360 Slim was available in all weeks of June 2010, so there's possibly another variable in predicting the impact that the Xbox One S will have in August 2016.

3 out 5, and it sold 180,700 in those 3 weeks.



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RolStoppable said:
Welfare said:

3 out 5, and it sold 180,700 in those 3 weeks.

Only 181k of the total of 452k for the month? That means that the regular 360 was up month over month back then which suggests good deals from retailers during June 2010 in order to clear out stock.

We've seen such deals for the Xbox One during July already, so that makes predictions for August a good bit trickier, because the surrounding circumstances for the launch of a Slim model do not align properly.

The Arcade model and 120GB Elite model got price cuts along with the launch of the S. Arcade went down to $149 and sold 158,100 while the Elite was $249 and sold 112,900.



Won bet with t3mporary_126 - I correctly predicted that the Wii U's LTD at the end of 2014 would be closer to 9 million than 10 million. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6673287

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RolStoppable said:
Welfare said:

3 out 5, and it sold 180,700 in those 3 weeks.

Only 181k of the total of 452k for the month? That means that the regular 360 was up month over month back then which suggests good deals from retailers during June 2010 in order to clear out stock.

We've seen such deals for the Xbox One during July already, so that makes predictions for August a good bit trickier, because the surrounding circumstances for the launch of a Slim model do not align properly.

It does. Then you have to factor that the Slim is a significant upgrade over the fat which means that those price cuts might not be as attractive as a upgraded model. Then you have the $300 slim releasing the end of the month. 



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NMS is now at 18th in the yearlies, 3 places behind the COD bundle.



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SWORDF1SH said:
RolStoppable said:

Only 181k of the total of 452k for the month? That means that the regular 360 was up month over month back then which suggests good deals from retailers during June 2010 in order to clear out stock.

We've seen such deals for the Xbox One during July already, so that makes predictions for August a good bit trickier, because the surrounding circumstances for the launch of a Slim model do not align properly.

It does. Then you have to factor that the Slim is a significant upgrade over the fat which means that those price cuts might not be as attractive as a upgraded model. Then you have the $300 slim releasing the end of the month. 

The Xbox S have a 4K Blu-ray player. If I remember well, the Xbox 360 don't had any Blu-ray Player.



I think the Slim 360 actually had a more important upgrade than the S in that the thing didn't red ring every 3 months (as someone who owned 4 fat 360s that died, including a launch system that died a few days after my initial 3 month warranty expired, and 1 Slim that has lasted fine for five years now, I have personal experience :) ) 



Shadow1980 said:
Ryng_Tolu said:

May 2010 - 195,000

June 2010 - 452,000

boost was +132% MOM / 85% weekly

Aww. He asked me. I like answering questions I know the answers to. :(

But to give a greater context to the effects of the 360 S, here's how it did in 2009 - 2011:

 

 


2009 2010 2011
Jan. 309 332.8 381
Feb. 391 422 535
Mar. 330 338.4 433
April 175 185.4 297
May 175 194.6 270
June 240.6 451.7 507
July 202.9 443.5 277
Aug. 215.4 356.7 308
Sept. 352.6 484 483
Oct. 249.7 325 393
Nov. 819.5 1370 1700
Dec. 1310 1860 1700

Not only did it result in the 85.7% jump in the weekly average in June over May (and an 87.7% YoY jump from June 2009, but the weekly average grew even more in July, it dipped a good bit in August, got a bit of a bump in September due to Halo: Reach, then dipped again in October. Overall, sales in the June-December period were up 56% YoY from the same period in 2009. Sales in the Jan.-May period of 2011 were up 30% YoY from the same period in 2010, while sales in the June-Dec. period were about flat YoY. 2012 saw a noticeable 20% YoY drop in Q1, but the decline accelerated in Q2 & Q3 to about -40%. Overall, 2012 was down 27% from 2011. This signalled not only that the 360 S's stimulative effect had worn off, but that the 360 had passed its peak. It had already sold 38 million units by the end of 2012, so it was going to be hard to generate any future sales growth. Sales continued to drop rapidly through the first ten months of 2013, and the loss accelerated even faster once the XBO was released.

So, there was a strong initial bump from the 360 S, and a lesser but still strong residual bump that lasted until December 2011.

Should we expect something similar from the XBO S? Perhaps. I think sales will be up YoY a good bit in the Aug.-Dec. period from the same period last year, with a bump to around 300-350k for August NPD, and that we should see healthy YoY growth in 2017 as a whole before sales begin to decline in 2018. The Scorpio, and any cuts to what might be a high retail price for that model, could result in a slower post-peak decline for the XBO, but we're going to have to wait and see.

 

Oh, so now this is becomed a fight of who has more sales data hu!?

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