Would be great to have Pikmin, Zelda and Mario in NX's first year. Possibly other Wii U projects being transferred as well
Hope this game will be bigger than the last one. I found 4 locations to be really small for exploring. This game has so much potential, yet they don't go for it.
Also, I find it somehow odd to be cut off a boss fight when the sun sets. Ruins the mood.
It's like in Asterix in Britian, where the brits stop during the fight to go and drink hot water.
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Funny, I literally just googled an update on Pikmin 4 a few hours ago and have been watching speedruns.
I very much hope one is planned as a launch title for the Nx... as impressive as his record is, Pikmin might be Miyamoto's most unique contribution to gaming, and if his recent short movies are any indication, it appears it's the franchise he's most passionate about these days.
They have a feel and charm unlike any other game... can't wait for a new one! :)
| Peh said: Hope this game will be bigger than the last one. I found 4 locations to be really small for exploring. This game has so much potential, yet they don't go for it. It's like in Asterix in Britian, where the brits stop during the fight to go and drink hot water. |
Agree, my only real complain about game was that really need one more location.
| kopstudent89 said: Would be great to have Pikmin, Zelda and Mario in NX's first year. Possibly other Wii U projects being transferred as well |
Dont forget that Retro project and Next Level Game project are also on scheduled to be released in NX first year.
This situation seems similar to what happened to Pikmin 3.
I remember that, in an interview long ago, he said that Pikmin 3 was originally a project for the Wii and then they decided to redo it completely for the WiiU.
It seems Pikmin 4 was ment to the WiiU but in the end, it will be a NX game, what can be a good thing, after all. Nintendo will need its best franchises right off the launch of the NX if they want it to be successful
How do you go from "near completion" to "starting to see it being developed"? Miyamoto you lying to us again?
| Einsam_Delphin said: How do you go from "near completion" to "starting to see it being developed"? Miyamoto you lying to us again? |
He never said anything about "starting to see it being developed", he basicly said they are in development but they have list of priorities most likly for NX launh lineup. Its obvious they are currently priorities some other stronger games for launch lineup instead Pikmin, Pikmin definatly isnt system seller.
Miyamotoo said:
You would lose. :) Pikmin 3 first was announced at E3 2008. and in 2011. they announced that is moved to Wii U, and it was relaesed in middle of 2013 after few delays. Miyamoto around last E3 said that is Pikmin 4 almost finished, Pikmin 4 definatly started life like Wii U project, and basically they could make Pikmin 4 very fast and cheap buy reusing Pikmin 3 engine and assets (basically same way they done Pikmin 2), but along way when was obvious that Wii U is dead and that NX is coming they moved Pikmin 4 completly to NX. Pikmin 3 sold around 1m thats enuf for Nintendo to make profit, espacily with sales of DLCs. Also Pikmin would sell much better if isnt come in worst time for Wii U, when Wii U had catastrophic sales and people acutaly forget that Wii U exist at all. Yes, Miyamoto loves Pikmin, but not only that he made Pikmin movies, that earlier said that he have lotsa new ideas for Pikmin, he basically said that Pikmin 4 was almost complete, that means that development of game progressd far away. Miyamoto is management :), basically he is most important and most influence persone in Nintendo after Kimishima, if Miyamoto really wants to make some game he will make it easily, nobody really can't tell him you cant make that. Saying all that, Pikmin is great game any gives huge variety to line of any console, but its not a system seller, and thats exactly what Miyamoto says here, that they prioritize some more important games while they preparing NX launch lineup but that Pikmin 4 will be somewhere also one that list. Also Pikmin 3 was one of best Wii U games, and next game will be at least god as Pikmin 3, so I cant wait to see Pikmin 4 espacily beacuse Pikmin 3 looks beatifule even on Wii U hardware. |
I wouldn't.
You don't need to lecture me about Nintendo's internal structure ;) Miyamoto is part of Nintendo's management but he's not the one who is in charge of finances and resource allocation. I guess 1m copies was just enough for Pikmin to turn a profit. But it's a question of resource allocation: They could either make Pikmin 4 or another game that will sell more and make more profit. Pikmin is a niche franchise and Pikmin 3 barely sold 1m copies even though it was featured as an AAA game. Miyamoto agrees with me in the very quote in this thread: "when we’re in development we have to create a list of priorities and it has been hard to kind of fit that into that list". That's exactly what I said: Pikmin is a low priority game for Nintendo even though Miyamoto wants it to be a priority.
He said development was almost complete like a year ago - and now he's saying Pikmin 4 was low priority "but we’re hopefully starting to see that on the list now". Translation: "We are not working on it currently" or "we have a very small team working on it".
And yes, Miyamoto can basically make any game he wants. That's exactly my criticism towards him. Miyamoto is Nintendo's star so he can force financially unsound decisions. I don't like that, hence my original post.
Louie said:
I wouldn't. You don't need to lecture me about Nintendo's internal structure ;) Miyamoto is part of Nintendo's management but he's not the one who is in charge of finances and resource allocation. I guess 1m copies was just enough for Pikmin to turn a profit. But it's a question of resource allocation: They could either make Pikmin 4 or another game that will sell more and make more profit. Pikmin is a niche franchise and Pikmin 3 barely sold 1m copies even though it was featured as an AAA game. Miyamoto agrees with me in the very quote in this thread: "when we’re in development we have to create a list of priorities and it has been hard to kind of fit that into that list". That's exactly what I said: Pikmin is a low priority game for Nintendo even though Miyamoto wants it to be a priority. He said development was almost complete like a year ago - and now he's saying Pikmin 4 was low priority "but we’re hopefully starting to see that on the list now". Translation: "We are not working on it currently" or "we have a very small team working on it". And yes, Miyamoto can basically make any game he wants. That's exactly my criticism towards him. Miyamoto is Nintendo's star so he can force financially unsound decisions. I don't like that, hence my original post. |
Miyamoto is basically second most important and person with most power after Kimishima, like I wrote if he really wants to make som project he will make it.
What Miyamoto actually said is they are definitely working on Pikmin 4, but Pikmin isn't priority compared to some other much stronger games that Nintendo is preparing for NX launch lineup. Pikmin isn't system seller so of course they will prioritize and move resources to some much stronger games that they want to have for NX launch, when they finishe those more prioritize game they return resources to Pikmin 4.
How you can say translation is that when Miayamoto began statement with: “Yes, you are right, and we’re working on [Pikmin 4]".
Now we basicly have two confirmations that Pikmin 4 is in devolpment, but you said "I'd bet Pikmin 4 wasn't in development at all". We will 100% see Pikmin 4 on NX and most likly next year.
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