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Are you ashamed of your Leave vote

yes 43 14.98%
 
no 124 43.21%
 
kinda 5 1.74%
 
didnt vote Leave 115 40.07%
 
Total:287
Lawlight said:
Cobretti2 said:

lol what tyranny? we live in a modern world. we should be working together as a human race for the better f the world not some magical invisible boundries redrawn every few hundred years.

Lol, why be in the EU then? Just make a World Union instead of being part of a small group of countries that's there to only serve their own purpose? In fact why have borders? Let anyone fly anywhere.

I agree. we should be aiming for a world union in the long run, although that will never happen because of selfish agendas.

I commented because he made it sound like Britian was oppressed lol when instead our goal in the long term as a race should be to get alongand work together.



 

 

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Cobretti2 said:
Lawlight said:

Lol, why be in the EU then? Just make a World Union instead of being part of a small group of countries that's there to only serve their own purpose? In fact why have borders? Let anyone fly anywhere.

I agree. we should be aiming for a world union in the long run, although that will never happen because of selfish agendas.

I commented because he made it sound like Britian was oppressed lol when instead our goal in the long term as a race should be to get alongand work together.

The UK not wanting to be in the EU is less selfish that wanting to be in. Don't support that protectionist institution.



Slimebeast said:
Scoobes said:
Well, can't say we weren't warned but people were still stupid enough to believe the lies and vote to leave.

A lot of my friends are genuinely contemplating leaving the country (I'm talking born and bred Brits here, not disillusioned EU migrants that at least have somewhere to go back to). Personally I will have to wait and see what the effect will be when the dust settles.

Never been more ashamed to be British. We're the joke of the World at the moment and half the population don't even realize it.

No, you should be proud. And while some may see you as a joke, millions of others see you as heroes. And overnight we are already feeling the effects. A common agreement about (forced) distribution of migrants in the EU is very unlikely now.

Such a great day. So much respect to the independent and glorious nation that is the United Kingdom!

Except in all likelihood, the results of years of negotiations will end with us having to accept the free movement of people anyway, even though that was the primary reason a lot of people voted to leave. The remaining 27 EU leaders are going to want to shit all over the UK in negotiations to make the concept of any of them leaving to be a clear case of economic and social suicide. Sure Germany (and maybe France) will want to keep trade going, but the UK doesn't export anything you can't get elsewhere and we're not going to have as much buying power if the pounds stays low anyway.

I'm ashamed that the reason people voted to leave was because they feel left behind and blame the EU but don't realise that the reason they're so poor is because of domestic politics, not EU policy. When the EU money stops coming in and the poor get even poorer is going to be very interesting. Already we have regions that voted for Brexit asking that the UK Government to guarantee they'll keep receiving millions of pounds in EU funding. We have Brexit politicians admitting they lied during the campaign on the very morning of the result; the millions of pounds promised for the NHS was a complete lie; the promise to reduce immigration was another lie.

The areas that voted for heavily to leave are the same areas that have been ignored by British politicians but received the most in EU funding. This was a referendum of misleading lies and ignorance.



Cobretti2 said:
Scoobes said:
Well, can't say we weren't warned but people were still stupid enough to believe the lies and vote to leave.

A lot of my friends are genuinely contemplating leaving the country (I'm talking born and bred Brits here, not disillusioned EU migrants that at least have somewhere to go back to). Personally I will have to wait and see what the effect will be when the dust settles.

Never been more ashamed to be British. We're the joke of the World at the moment and half the population don't even realize it.

at the moment? hasn't it been always in modern times? it gets worst every major football tournment for you guys too.

We seem to be doing OK at the moment. England and Wales are both still in afterall. However, I try to follow Rugby instead. We seem to be much better in that sport!



So have a nuke dropped in UK? If not I'm only seeing FUD since the GDP don't change that much in a day.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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FragilE^ said:
Slimebeast said:

No, you should be proud. And while some may see you as a joke, millions of others see you as heroes. And overnight we are already feeling the effects. A common agreement about (forced) distribution of migrants in the EU is very unlikely now.

Such a great day. So much respect to the independent and glorious nation that is the United Kingdom!

I'm from Sweden. We might very well be getting a ton more migrants now >.< Sweden always tries to be the consience of the world, and if England wont take enough migrants, Sweden will be the first volunteer

lol of course we will be the first to volunteer. Like you say, the big, proud, shining conscience of the world.

It's so ridiculous. As if we weren't the masters of our own house and couldn't just close the doors. Although we did. When it became too much. Even for Sweden.



FragilE^ said:
Slimebeast said:

No, you should be proud. And while some may see you as a joke, millions of others see you as heroes. And overnight we are already feeling the effects. A common agreement about (forced) distribution of migrants in the EU is very unlikely now.

Such a great day. So much respect to the independent and glorious nation that is the United Kingdom!

I'm from Sweden. We might very well be getting a ton more migrants now >.< Sweden always tries to be the consience of the world, and if England wont take enough migrants, Sweden will be the first volunteer

Too bad for you guys.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Cobretti2 said:
HBninjaX said:

I'm proud of the UK right now, they voted for their independence from tyranny. Allowing incompetent foreign bureaucrats to govern your nation is a ridiculously stupid idea. Of course we're going to hear all of this doom and gloom chicken little "sky is falling" BS, what do you expect?

lol what tyranny? we live in a modern world. we should be working together as a human race for the better f the world not some magical invisible boundries redrawn every few hundred years.

Care to explain what better of the world you are talking about?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

their economy (as well as the world economy) will rebound. This is a normal sort of aftershock after a big political/government change for a significant nation

 

at any rate, they made a great choice. Letting an organization control your decisions and moderate you is not a great decision. Globalization is a scary thing, it kills culture and individual community's power in decision making.

A big part of this also has to be the EU's insane policies on Immigration. Its insane how much its hurting a lot of European economies and culture by endlessly allowing immigrants to flood in and get floated by the EU without adding anything or assimilating to their new home's culture

the UK is smart to cut ties, although arguably they're doing it a bit late

I also will point out that being part of the EU the UK was paying a BIG proportion of its GDP to help weaker members of the EU stay afloat. why stay part of an organization when you're essentially acting as a welfare nation to prop up your neighbors. its illogical and only weakens you.

 

those who are most upset about this are the ELITES and corporations who want as much globalization and connection between counties as possible so they can maintain smooth trade and ALSO maintain an immigration of cheap workers so they can build products and things cheaply.

make no mistake, the media is controlled by the rich and that's why so many media outlets (and celebrities) are puppeting the ideas that its a bad thing that the UK broke away.

literally the only bad thing about the UK leaving the EU from their point of view would be getting back regular trade tarrifs and needing passports to go to and fro the EU. beyond that there's like nothing

again, I have seen the media and celebrities manipulate a lot of casuals into thinking being part of the EU helps the UK- it doesn't. it helps the rich IN the UK by giving them larger scale opportunities at cheap work and trade AS WELL as gives celebrities in the UK easy opportunities to flow their money easily out of the UK without paying taxes

the EU's policies are also pretty insane if you bother to read them. they take away a nation's power to individually do much of anything. you're talking about a group of 20 some country's who ALL have their own government's and different organized structures of power who have to agree on things together. its a mess because there is no particularly strong central unfied decision making body.

just look at how people in the likes of Germany are responding to the EU's immigration laws and properstous attempts at over socialism- a lot of people aren't happy.

The UK breaking away should be looked as positive. the concept of a 'unified' world in which countries all band together and 'share' only in the end helps the elite, rich, corporations and those in power. it results in a bigger dividie between the rich and the poor. culture diversity and some maintenance in variety from lands to lands is hugely important in maintaining social classes and differences between one nation and another

don't trust the media. people own the media networks, and corporations (basically) own those people



Cobretti2 said:
Lawlight said:

Lol, why be in the EU then? Just make a World Union instead of being part of a small group of countries that's there to only serve their own purpose? In fact why have borders? Let anyone fly anywhere.

I agree. we should be aiming for a world union in the long run, although that will never happen because of selfish agendas.

I commented because he made it sound like Britian was oppressed lol when instead our goal in the long term as a race should be to get alongand work together.

you all live in lalala lands. you can't just magically throw together a million different ideologies, religions, social preferences- into a mixing bowl and expect it to magically work perfectly and for everyone to coexist.

the whole point of borders and countries should be to enable people of similar beliefs and preferences to be able to live together and in their own territory with harmony.

you're not goint to throw a group of radical muslims (just saying) who believe women should shield their faces constantly into a town of 25 year hipster girls who believe in women empowerment and it magically work out

 

human beings are flawed to begin with. the best realistic goal I think you can have is that people spread out across the board somewhat fairly and evenly, based on belief and culture and that we live among our own communities peacefully.

anyone aiming for one world economy or a one world country that runs seamlessly is just being delusional. And I can't stress enough that the fewer seperated economies and nations in the world the more likely that the rich and corporations will gain even more power. you NEED competition and variety to allow different classes to emerge and change in a society.

as soon as you have one world economy or one giant country it becomes a bloated mess in which the top few % in power have nothing in their way to stop them from gaining more and more power. in an odd way I would argue that borders, regulations, tariffs- that they actually help stop the rich-poor gap from exponentially growing too quickly.

there's a reason that the media/rich have reacted so angrily about the UK breaking up from the EU- its a little block in their goals for further globalization and a one world economy.

 

and the reality is in the end if your suggestions are that the world should be unified as one- what does that really mean? our communities and countries often represent us in terms of culture, religion, morals- to some degree. I know I personally don't want my culture to suddenly mix with that of North Korea or China, I don't know about you. and I speak more on the matter of ethics and history than anything else. Someone in China would probably feel the same way, people grow up and either like where they are and their home or possibly move somewhere else. Which is perfectly fine. the concept that everyone should sort of join up and unify as a human race is sort of absurd because people are entirely different from one another.

everyone wants world peace but that doesn't magically mean that immigration should be forced across the board and it certainly doesn't mean that better off country's who have spent centuries getting where they are now should give that all up to float the bill for hordes of immigrants or big unified continental alliances

I'm rambling a bit but it is concerning how some seem to lack a grasp on the fact that humans do have very differing views on politics/morals/culture and that having some level of borderse and seperation can sometimes be a very positive thing.

its the exact reason you have walls around your house and don't openly share your yard with your next door neighbor