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Veknoid_Outcast on 20 June 2016
fleischr said:
There's a decently deep bench of great IP Microsoft is sadly ignoring:
-Mechwarrior
-Age of Empires
-Crimson Skies
-Conker
-Banjo Kazooie
-Perfect Dark
-Flight Simulator

The continued lack of a great, exclusive RPG is depressing. The fact that Scalebound looks to be shaping up so poorly isn't helping anything.

Yeah, the RPG thing is a drag. With Fable on ice and Japanese support drying up, that's a big hole in the Xbox line-up. As much as I disparage the usefulness of advanced technology in video games, I have to acknowledge it would be a boon to the Fable series. All those things Molyneux promised us could actually become a reality.



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Swordmasterman on 20 June 2016
Ali_16x said:
zero129 said:

Microsoft has never been like Sony by showing off games thats years away. They show them off closer to release its always been like this.

Scalebound 33 months, Crackdown 34-41 months, Halo Wars 2 18 months, Sea of Thieves 22 months , Halo 5 29 months, Fable Legends, 30+ months (if it wasn't cancelled, still announced early), Gears of War 4 16 months.

Quantum Break also launched several years after release, people think that only because Phill Spencer said "Our games have release dates" to defend from the question he was asked for, this means that they will never announce any game that will launch 1-2 years after announcement. 



LudicrousSpeed on 20 June 2016
Ali_16x said:

What did I say that was wrong about Forza Horizon 3 being announced? Tell me, how did anyone not see it coming. You think a yearly Call of Duty announcement means anything? Nope, because it's annual, just like Forza. It's announcement means nothing. 

State of Decay was an incredible game? Most would say it's a average/good game, not great or amazing. And as I said, this is about announcements, not the quality of the game. How isn't State of Decay 2 an indie game? Ori was an indie game, doesn't mean it was bad. You're acting like the announcement for State of Decay 2 was amazing, groundbreaking, or even a little bit surprising. Unless you could tell me why those 2 game announcement were anything but average, don't bother replying.

Whether you see it coming or not doesn't change the fact that it exists and looks great. I can't imagine the flack and probably ban I would receive if I made a thread saying some nonsense like God of War 4 is irrelevant because we all knew it was coming. Legend of Zelda looked amazing but who cares, we knew it was coming. GT Sport is like the 13th or 14th iteration of GT since it launched, might as well not even talk about it. lol

I don't really care what "most" would say. "Most" wouldn't agree with your logic, either. Also, I don't think you understand what an indie game is. Unless you could tell me you actually understand what an indie game is, don't bother replying.



Normchacho on 20 June 2016
Mr Puggsly said:
I feel like at this E3 they just wanted push a long list of games coming soon. MS has the most impressive list of titles coming this year and early next year.

So at E3 2017, MS has to announce new content. And perhaps sooner than that.

The point the OP is trying to make is that they've already said that they have 14 games in development and we know what like 11 or 12 of them are.

 

Basically the OP is saying that he thinks they didn't announce new stuff because they don't have anything new to show. Which seems to be supported by statements they themselves have made.



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pokoko on 20 June 2016
Swordmasterman said:
Ali_16x said:

Scalebound 33 months, Crackdown 34-41 months, Halo Wars 2 18 months, Sea of Thieves 22 months , Halo 5 29 months, Fable Legends, 30+ months (if it wasn't cancelled, still announced early), Gears of War 4 16 months.

Quantum Break also launched several years after release, people think that only because Phill Spencer said "Our games have release dates" to defend from the question he was asked for, this means that they will never announce any game that will launch 1-2 years after announcement. 

This is true.  Microsoft has been as guilty of this as anyone else in the industry.  Spencer can't simply pretend otherwise now.



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Swordmasterman on 20 June 2016
LudicrousSpeed said:
Ali_16x said:

What did I say that was wrong about Forza Horizon 3 being announced? Tell me, how did anyone not see it coming. You think a yearly Call of Duty announcement means anything? Nope, because it's annual, just like Forza. It's announcement means nothing. 

State of Decay was an incredible game? Most would say it's a average/good game, not great or amazing. And as I said, this is about announcements, not the quality of the game. How isn't State of Decay 2 an indie game? Ori was an indie game, doesn't mean it was bad. You're acting like the announcement for State of Decay 2 was amazing, groundbreaking, or even a little bit surprising. Unless you could tell me why those 2 game announcement were anything but average, don't bother replying.

Whether you see it coming or not doesn't change the fact that it exists and looks great. I can't imagine the flack and probably ban I would receive if I made a thread saying some nonsense like God of War 4 is irrelevant because we all knew it was coming. Legend of Zelda looked amazing but who cares, we knew it was coming. GT Sport is like the 13th or 14th iteration of GT since it launched, might as well not even talk about it. lol

I don't really care what "most" would say. "Most" wouldn't agree with your logic, either. Also, I don't think you understand what an indie game is. Unless you could tell me you actually understand what an indie game is, don't bother replying.

Gran Turismo is a franchise that launched 20 years ago, and they don't release or announce a new game every year, Since the launch of the Xbox One, from 2013 to 2016 the console had Forza 5, Forza Horizon 2, Forza 6, and now Forza Horizon 3, meanwhile not even a single Gran Turismo game.

And a Indie game is a game made by independent developers, Kojima's game is a Indie game, Recore is a Indie game, No Man's Sky is a indie game.

The last God of War or Zelda game launched much time ago so those games aren't yearly franchises like Forza.



The_BlackHeart__ on 20 June 2016

I understand having problems understanding resolution and framerate. But please don´t tell me that defending a brand made you forget basic math too.

Even if Microsoft releases 14 Gears of War, 14 Forza Horizon and 14 Halo games, during the next years. They will still not reach the amount of exclusives released during the first 5 months of 2016 on PlayStation.


Math is simple guys: 5 months of PlayStation exclusives equal more than 10 years of XBox exclusives.

 

PlayStation Exclusive Games (During 5 months)
 PlayStation + PC Shared (During 5 months)
   
93 Uncharted 4: A Thief's End 87 The Witness
86 Ratchet & Clank 86 Salt and Sanctuary
84 MLB The Show 16 85 Crypt of the NecroDancer
82 Severed 85 Assault Android Cactus
80 Alienation 85 Valkyria Chronicles Remastered
80 Gravity Rush Remastered 84 Day of the Tentacle Remastered
78 Heavy Rain & Beyond: Two Souls Collection 83 Invisible, Inc.
76 Klaus 82 Enter the Gungeon
75 Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth 78 Street Fighter V
75 Atelier Escha & Logy Plus 77 Hitman GO: Definitive Edition
74 Amplitude 76 Firewatch
72 Ray Gigant 74 Not a Hero
71 Megadimension Neptunia VII 74 Stories: The Path of Destinies
71 Samurai Warriors 4 Empires 73 Futuridium EP Deluxe
71 Amazing Discoveries In Outer Space 73 Neverending Nightmares
70 Rainbow Moon 72 The Magic Circle: Gold Edition
70 Nitroplus Blasterz: Heroines Infinite Duel 72 Republique
68 Nights of Azure 72 Dead Star
68 Rocketbirds 2: Evolution 72 The Deadly Tower of Monsters
67 Senran Kagura: Estival Versus 67 BROFORCE
67 Shadow of the Beast 66 The Last Tinker: City of Colors
65 The Witch and the Hundred Knight 65 Tharsis
65 Trillion: God of Destruction 63 Kholat
61 MegaTagmension Blanc 59 Catlateral Damage
56 Aegis of Earth: Protonovus Assault 58 Attractio
56 Hardware: Rivals 56 Table Top Racing: World Tour
52 Koi 50 Shadwen
43 Dead or Alive Xtreme 3  
   
Total: 28  /  Scored 80 or above: 6 Total: 27 /  Scored 80 or above: 8

 

Its too late into this generation cycle to say that 14 games distributed into the next 5 years is something to be proud of.

I can already hear people defending a certain brand by saying that quality is more important than quantity. Before you even say that, please tell me the last time that this brand won Game of the Year, or even better, when was the last time that this brand produced a game scored above 90 on Metacritic?

Math is easy, don´t try to twist it.



Veknoid_Outcast on 20 June 2016
The_BlackHeart__ said:

I understand having problems understanding resolution and framerate. But please don´t tell me that defending a brand made you forget basic math too.

Even if Microsoft releases 14 Gears of War, 14 Forza Horizon and 14 Halo games, during the next years. They will still not reach the amount of exclusives released during the first 5 months of 2016 on PlayStation.


Math is simple guys: 5 months of PlayStation exclusives equal more than 10 years of XBox exclusives.

 

PlayStation Exclusive Games (During 5 months)
 PlayStation + PC Shared (During 5 months)
   
93 Uncharted 4: A Thief's End 87 The Witness
86 Ratchet & Clank 86 Salt and Sanctuary
84 MLB The Show 16 85 Crypt of the NecroDancer
82 Severed 85 Assault Android Cactus
80 Alienation 85 Valkyria Chronicles Remastered
80 Gravity Rush Remastered 84 Day of the Tentacle Remastered
78 Heavy Rain & Beyond: Two Souls Collection 83 Invisible, Inc.
76 Klaus 82 Enter the Gungeon
75 Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth 78 Street Fighter V
75 Atelier Escha & Logy Plus 77 Hitman GO: Definitive Edition
74 Amplitude 76 Firewatch
72 Ray Gigant 74 Not a Hero
71 Megadimension Neptunia VII 74 Stories: The Path of Destinies
71 Samurai Warriors 4 Empires 73 Futuridium EP Deluxe
71 Amazing Discoveries In Outer Space 73 Neverending Nightmares
70 Rainbow Moon 72 The Magic Circle: Gold Edition
70 Nitroplus Blasterz: Heroines Infinite Duel 72 Republique
68 Nights of Azure 72 Dead Star
68 Rocketbirds 2: Evolution 72 The Deadly Tower of Monsters
67 Senran Kagura: Estival Versus 67 BROFORCE
67 Shadow of the Beast 66 The Last Tinker: City of Colors
65 The Witch and the Hundred Knight 65 Tharsis
65 Trillion: God of Destruction 63 Kholat
61 MegaTagmension Blanc 59 Catlateral Damage
56 Aegis of Earth: Protonovus Assault 58 Attractio
56 Hardware: Rivals 56 Table Top Racing: World Tour
52 Koi 50 Shadwen
43 Dead or Alive Xtreme 3  
   
Total: 28  /  Scored 80 or above: 6 Total: 27 /  Scored 80 or above: 8

 

Its too late into this generation cycle to say that 14 games distributed into the next 5 years is something to be proud of.

I can already hear people defending a certain brand by saying that quality is more important than quantity. Before you even say that, please tell me the last time that this brand won Game of the Year, or even better, when was the last time that this brand produced a game scored above 90 on Metacritic?

Math is easy, don´t try to twist it.

OK, I'll bite.

How would you rank those games, from one to 27?



Swordmasterman on 20 June 2016
Veknoid_Outcast said:
The_BlackHeart__ said:

I understand having problems understanding resolution and framerate. But please don´t tell me that defending a brand made you forget basic math too.

Even if Microsoft releases 14 Gears of War, 14 Forza Horizon and 14 Halo games, during the next years. They will still not reach the amount of exclusives released during the first 5 months of 2016 on PlayStation.


Math is simple guys: 5 months of PlayStation exclusives equal more than 10 years of XBox exclusives.

 

PlayStation Exclusive Games (During 5 months)
 PlayStation + PC Shared (During 5 months)
   
93 Uncharted 4: A Thief's End 87 The Witness
86 Ratchet & Clank 86 Salt and Sanctuary
84 MLB The Show 16 85 Crypt of the NecroDancer
82 Severed 85 Assault Android Cactus
80 Alienation 85 Valkyria Chronicles Remastered
80 Gravity Rush Remastered 84 Day of the Tentacle Remastered
78 Heavy Rain & Beyond: Two Souls Collection 83 Invisible, Inc.
76 Klaus 82 Enter the Gungeon
75 Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth 78 Street Fighter V
75 Atelier Escha & Logy Plus 77 Hitman GO: Definitive Edition
74 Amplitude 76 Firewatch
72 Ray Gigant 74 Not a Hero
71 Megadimension Neptunia VII 74 Stories: The Path of Destinies
71 Samurai Warriors 4 Empires 73 Futuridium EP Deluxe
71 Amazing Discoveries In Outer Space 73 Neverending Nightmares
70 Rainbow Moon 72 The Magic Circle: Gold Edition
70 Nitroplus Blasterz: Heroines Infinite Duel 72 Republique
68 Nights of Azure 72 Dead Star
68 Rocketbirds 2: Evolution 72 The Deadly Tower of Monsters
67 Senran Kagura: Estival Versus 67 BROFORCE
67 Shadow of the Beast 66 The Last Tinker: City of Colors
65 The Witch and the Hundred Knight 65 Tharsis
65 Trillion: God of Destruction 63 Kholat
61 MegaTagmension Blanc 59 Catlateral Damage
56 Aegis of Earth: Protonovus Assault 58 Attractio
56 Hardware: Rivals 56 Table Top Racing: World Tour
52 Koi 50 Shadwen
43 Dead or Alive Xtreme 3  
   
Total: 28  /  Scored 80 or above: 6 Total: 27 /  Scored 80 or above: 8

 

Its too late into this generation cycle to say that 14 games distributed into the next 5 years is something to be proud of.

I can already hear people defending a certain brand by saying that quality is more important than quantity. Before you even say that, please tell me the last time that this brand won Game of the Year, or even better, when was the last time that this brand produced a game scored above 90 on Metacritic?

Math is easy, don´t try to twist it.

OK, I'll bite.

How would you rank those games, from one to 27?

What games he need to give a Score from  one to 27 ?, and this is a strange way to rate a game, So a game that scored  24/27 would be equal to 8.8/10 ?.



Veknoid_Outcast on 20 June 2016
Swordmasterman said:
Veknoid_Outcast said:

OK, I'll bite.

How would you rank those games, from one to 27?

What games he need to give a Score from  one to 27 ?, and this is a strange way to rate a game, So a game that scored  24/27 would be equal to 8.8/10 ?.

No, how would he rank those 27 games, from first to 27th.