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baloofarsan on 10 June 2016

Excuse my ignorance!
Who is ZhugeEX and why is his tweets regarded as official statements?
I have seen more and more of his tweets and most people seem to think they are true.
Is he an analyst for a mobile company and leaks information on his private twitter?
Why is he more reliable than other analysts (Michael Pachter)?



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Pinkie_pie on 10 June 2016
baloofarsan said:
Excuse my ignorance!
Who is ZhugeEX and why is his tweets regarded as official statements?
I have seen more and more of his tweets and most people seem to think they are true.
Is he an analyst for a mobile company and leaks information on his private twitter?
Why is he more reliable than other analysts (Michael Pachter)?

No analyst is more reliable than michael pachter



baloofarsan on 10 June 2016
Pinkie_pie said:

baloofarsan said:
Excuse my ignorance!
Who is ZhugeEX?

(snip)

Why is he more reliable than other analysts (Michael Pachter)?

No analyst is more reliable than michael pachter



AsGryffynn on 10 June 2016
thismeintiel said:
Shadow1980 said:
Well, it was at about 1.7M in the U.S. at the end of 2015, which is just over two months worth of sales for it. I don't think we got any numbers for January, but I imagine it was a decent drop. Might've been at about 1.8M at retail as of the end of January. Assuming the U.S. still represents about 60% of Halo sales, that means the global tally would've been about 3M. So, we can probably assume about 40% digital (including bundled copies), which is well outside the norm for a retail-release title.

Still, 5 million globally after 3 months is a big drop-off from previous games. Halo 3 was at 4.83M in the U.S. alone as of the end of 2007 (so probably around 8M globally), and Reach and Halo 4 probably weren't too far behind in their first three months.

Pretty much.  While Halo still sells well, there is no denying it is far from what it used to be.

The original trilogy is hard to surpass and Halo 4 was riding off that when it released... It's going to be back to square one from now on... 

Shadow1980 said:
Goatseye said:

Can't compare it to the days where FPS were mostly Arena style and the military twitch ones didn't exist back then.

The thing is, Halo sales remained remarkably stable from Halo 2 (released in 2004) on towards Halo 4 (released in 2012). The series ran right through the rise of CoD and similar "modern" military-style "twitch" FPSs, yet never lost steam. It wasn't until 343i's mishandling of the series in the form of the MCC's disastrous first few months that we saw the series go into decline. 343i has done a much better job with Halo 5, and hopefully it's enough to have gotten them back in gamers' good graces. If Halo 6 ends up exhibiting a rebound in sales for the series, we can say that Halo 5 was a fluke dragged down by the MCC's multiplayer woes. They may also get more people back into the series by supporting local split-screen and proper offline LAN play.

This is what most people on HaloWayPoint agree with. The MCC had a host of problems that crippled Halo 5 to a sizable extent, but the solid H5 multiplayer has cleared most of that mess and helped 343 obtain some breathing room. If they create a better story for the next game, then they will have fixed all of the problems that plagued 343 this gen since the story and MP of 4 were both solid, unlike the two recent installments... 



baloofarsan on 10 June 2016
Ka-pi96 said:
baloofarsan said:
Excuse my ignorance!
Who is ZhugeEX and why is his tweets regarded as official statements?
I have seen more and more of his tweets and most people seem to think they are true.
Is he an analyst for a mobile company and leaks information on his private twitter?
Why is he more reliable than other analysts (Michael Pachter)?

That's your example? I can't even think of a person that's not more reliable than Pachter

Don't actually know how Zhuge gets his info although it usually does come after NPD or other financial releases and what not, but at the very least he has been a consistent source that's seemed reliable, no ridiculous failed predictions from him so far

It is the only analyst I know about really.

With a name anyway. Mostly when analysts are referred to they are nameless. Pachter has made it out of the crowd.

EDIT: On topic. Good to see Halo sell well!



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Teeqoz on 10 June 2016
iTzCharlie said:
Great results, if its shipped digital sale aren't included

Lol, based on what? Since when did publishers stop including digital in their shiped numbers?



Angelv577 on 10 June 2016

It is hard to know exactly how much halo 5 sold until now but there is still no doubt that the game under performed compare to previous halo mainline games. 5m shipped at the end of the year is good all things considered but after that halo 5 hasn't showed good legs on NPD so basically I don't think halo 5 numbers varies that much now compare to end of the year, if anything it should finally reach 5m soldthrough now, maybe a little bit more.



iTzCharlie on 10 June 2016

How can you ship something that isn't physical wtf. Digital is in the store like an infinite number, there isn't a
predetermined number of copies.



DonFerrari on 10 June 2016

Funny seeing some people saying those are very great numbers when months back they were basically expecting the double of it, and made several threads to say the numbers we had were a lot lower than reality... how quick are we to forget. Don't remember anyone of those guys saying 5M would be a success (and that is shipped, with no clear way to define the total sales number).



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Teeqoz on 10 June 2016
iTzCharlie said:
How can you ship something that isn't physical wtf. Digital is in the store like an infinite number, there isn't a
predetermined number of copies.

Publishers don't report anything called "shipped" numbers. They report sales. But a sale for the publisher is a sale as long as it has been paid for, either directly by the consumer through a digital storefront, or by retailers that in turn sell them to consumers.

 

However from our point of view, there is a distinct difference between shipped (sold in) and sold (sold through), so we separate between the two. Publishers on the other hand don't really care all that much. When we say shipped, it means sold in, which also includes copies sold through a digital storefront.