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Rise of the Tomb Raider 158 22.19%
 
Uncharted 4 554 77.81%
 
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zippy said:
Is ROTTR coming to PS4 eventually?

Yes, this fall/holiday.



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zippy said:
Is ROTTR coming to PS4 eventually?

Yup. PS4 version coming Q4 2016. Here's the preorder: http://www.amazon.com/Rise-Tomb-Raider-PlayStation-4/dp/B013HMN66M

Great game. I hope many PS and TR fans support this even though they had to wait a year.

I'll be sad if the desicion to make this timed exclusive has any long time consequences for the franchise. Lara is supposed to get her hands on the iconic shades in the 3rd reboot game. I so want that to be developed!



I'm on chapter 17 of Uncharted 4 and, of course, I've championed RotTR in the past.

Uncharted 4 wins in graphics, characters, story, and variety of environments. It has some sweet variety in gameplay types , too. Surprisingly better swimming in Uncharted, too!

Tomb Raider wins in exploration, puzzles, character progression and customization

Gunplay, set pieces, are pretty much a tie to me. Tomb Raider has more ways to dispatch an enemy but Uncharteds scenes are so frenetic and fun. Tomb Raider's foes seem more like people and Uncharteds seem more like cannon fodder.

Uncharted has lots of moments where you're just walking and talking. These moments build the story but once you've seen them, you've seen them. Tomb Raider pretty much always gives you something to do but the story isn't very engrossing (sadly).

It really could go either way depending on the mood. I'm happy to have played both. I think people coming into RotTR after playing Uncharted will be disappointed because of the lack of emotional impact and weaker graphics. People playing RoTR first will miss the upgradeable skills and ingenious puzzles. Both are excellent but I'd give the nod to Uncharted at this point.

I still have a few chapters to go in U 4, though.



I know people have opinions but I can't really fathom how somebody could honestly call Tomb Raider and its sequel "bad".



onionberry said:
Lrdfancypants said:

I'm curious why you'd think you would be hated for your opinion.  From what I see on the Internet console exclusives, regardless of brand, typically have fairly equal amounts of people for or against them, if that's indeed what you're referring too. 

I bought Uncharted 4 and i like it a lot, I just think that the other is better and it's not getting the same attention cause it's not on playstation. I'm going to be hated cause it's not a popular opinion, and if you say that something is better than a ND game some fans can be to passionated with their responses, although so far everything seems polite. Minus the guy who said that women like tomb raider more, making this a gender thing...

No offense meant but you're opening yourself up to criticism by starting off negative against a group. Instead of saying I know I'll be hated because these particular fans are a certain way why not just say you like the game better. There is no reason to toss slight jabs in and claim victim status even before anyone says anything. 

This goes doubly considering your point ROTR doesn't get attention because it was lauded and got tons of attention across the net.  To assume someone isn't interested in ROTR just because they own a PlayStation or like ND is just as bad as what you're claiming from others. 



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d21lewis said:
I know people have opinions but I can't really fathom how somebody could honestly call Tomb Raider and its sequel "bad".

Well, we already had a lot of discussions about the reboot, so I'm not going to start a new full list, but IIRC (played it a long time ago) : really bad (and predictable) story and characters, Lara and her ridiculous "character development" (and I'm really nice to use that word) included, exaggerated "gritty" setting and dialogues, useless puzzles, ultra-repetitive gunfights with only 3 or 4 different AI behaviors and always the same arenas, forced and useless QTE and set sequences with death porn, even repetitive chapters (infiltration, gunfight, everything burns and you get out in an explosion, one of your friends dies, and you start again), and let's not talk about the end of the game... (I'm still mad at the huge monsters that you fight only once with a QTE...) The only "good" things (and "average" would be a much better word) were the bits of customization and exploration. 

 

I'm not saying that the sequel is bad. I'm saying that IMO the reboot was bad or at least a very average game overhyped (so I was really disappointed when I finally played it), and almost all the reviews I've seen about the sequel said something like "It's really close to the reboot, if you liked the reboot you'll like this one, otherwise...". So I'm pretty sure that I won't find the sequel good if I ever play it. 



Tomb Raider has more gameplay elements opposed to story, but after playing both games on hard, Uncharted is easily much harder (omitting tombs and treasure searching). Tombs and treasures are superior in Tomb Raider, but everything else goes to Uncharted imho. The pacing of the story is better, and the characters actually mean something. Lara Croft does not need to have people following her. Nathan Drake is strong, but still feels the need to have his loved ones near him. They help him when he is not best on his own. Missions that I dont even think Lara could take herself, but Square is so desperate to seem like this overpowered rambo that she doesnt need others around. What a waste. Oh well...Lara is still cool though, but yeah as an overall package Uncharted trumps Tomb Raider by leaps and bounds. Multiplayer included. Out of lara and Nathan Drake, I believe Drake as will go don in history as one of the most convincing characters. 

If you're into core gameplay Tomb Raider is the better option as it gives you more freedom. Uncharted is the indian jones wild ride though, but realizes that wild ride comes from the fact that they restrict some freedom to begin wth.



Faelco said:
d21lewis said:
I know people have opinions but I can't really fathom how somebody could honestly call Tomb Raider and its sequel "bad".

Well, we already had a lot of discussions about the reboot, so I'm not going to start a new full list, but IIRC (played it a long time ago) : really bad (and predictable) story and characters, Lara and her ridiculous "character development" (and I'm really nice to use that word) included, exaggerated "gritty" setting and dialogues, useless puzzles, ultra-repetitive gunfights with only 3 or 4 different AI behaviors and always the same arenas, forced and useless QTE and set sequences with death porn, even repetitive chapters (infiltration, gunfight, everything burns and you get out in an explosion, one of your friends dies, and you start again), and let's not talk about the end of the game... (I'm still mad at the huge monsters that you fight only once with a QTE...) The only "good" things (and "average" would be a much better word) were the bits of customization and exploration. 

 

I'm not saying that the sequel is bad. I'm saying that IMO the reboot was bad or at least a very average game overhyped (so I was really disappointed when I finally played it), and almost all the reviews I've seen about the sequel said something like "It's really close to the reboot, if you liked the reboot you'll like this one, otherwise...". So I'm pretty sure that I won't find the sequel good if I ever play it. 

I guess I have to respect your opinion but, wow. I got TR for Xb360 and played through it a couple of times. The Definitive Edition was the game that made me buy a PS4. I played through the whole game again when I got it for free on PS Plus on PS3, and I'm about 80% done with it after getting it for free on XB1 with games with gold!

I LOVE the game. To me, it goes from high point to high point and is so engaging!



Having played both and liking them for different reasons. I can say that RoTR is a great experience. Do I think it's the better game?.....no. However, I do think RoTR is a great game. If folks weren't comparing it to UC, I think they would enjoy it more. I get what you're saying, Onionberry. Your opinion is a valid one.

Approaching RoTR to compare it to UC4 is a mistake. Gamers should play the game and enjoy it on it's own merits. D21lewis has some spot on descriptions of both games that I totally agree with.



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d21lewis said:
Faelco said:

Well, we already had a lot of discussions about the reboot, so I'm not going to start a new full list, but IIRC (played it a long time ago) : really bad (and predictable) story and characters, Lara and her ridiculous "character development" (and I'm really nice to use that word) included, exaggerated "gritty" setting and dialogues, useless puzzles, ultra-repetitive gunfights with only 3 or 4 different AI behaviors and always the same arenas, forced and useless QTE and set sequences with death porn, even repetitive chapters (infiltration, gunfight, everything burns and you get out in an explosion, one of your friends dies, and you start again), and let's not talk about the end of the game... (I'm still mad at the huge monsters that you fight only once with a QTE...) The only "good" things (and "average" would be a much better word) were the bits of customization and exploration. 

 

I'm not saying that the sequel is bad. I'm saying that IMO the reboot was bad or at least a very average game overhyped (so I was really disappointed when I finally played it), and almost all the reviews I've seen about the sequel said something like "It's really close to the reboot, if you liked the reboot you'll like this one, otherwise...". So I'm pretty sure that I won't find the sequel good if I ever play it. 

I guess I have to respect your opinion but, wow. I got TR for Xb360 and played through it a couple of times. The Definitive Edition was the game that made me buy a PS4. I played through the whole game again when I got it for free on PS Plus on PS3, and I'm about 80% done with it after getting it for free on XB1 with games with gold!

I LOVE the game. To me, it goes from high point to high point and is so engaging!

 

Just a matter of opinions then :) I've seen other people with mine and other people with yours!