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Forums - Sales - UK Chart Week Ending 14 May 2016 (Uncharted 4: 190K)

Azzanation said:

Uncharted doesn't come out every year so its a game thats been on wish lists for a very long time. If Uncharted came out yearly it would also suffer a similar decline like Halo. If you want to do a fair comparison then compare title to title.  Halo 1 vs Uncharted 1 to Uncharted 4 vs Halo 4. There's your true winner in sales.

 

No damage has been to the Franchise because Halo 5 still sells well and has only increased Halos value. Selling 4m and possibly 5m including Digital is far from a damaged Franchise. 

Ive mostly been ignoring you till you made this ridicuous post.

So just to be clear, Halo comes out every year? I honestky didnt know that? Being that the first halo was released in 2002.... shouldnt we be on Halo 16 now?

And all that talk about userbase has to be the most post moving crap i have heard. What will you say about the wiiU and splatoon or mariokart? And in the case of splatoon its even a NEW IP!!!!!



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Intrinsic said:
Azzanation said:

Uncharted doesn't come out every year so its a game thats been on wish lists for a very long time. If Uncharted came out yearly it would also suffer a similar decline like Halo. If you want to do a fair comparison then compare title to title.  Halo 1 vs Uncharted 1 to Uncharted 4 vs Halo 4. There's your true winner in sales.

 

No damage has been to the Franchise because Halo 5 still sells well and has only increased Halos value. Selling 4m and possibly 5m including Digital is far from a damaged Franchise. 

Ive mostly been ignoring you till you made this ridicuous post.

So just to be clear, Halo comes out every year? I honestky didnt know that? Being that the first halo was released in 2002.... shouldnt we be on Halo 16 now?

And all that talk about userbase has to be the most post moving crap i have heard. What will you say about the wiiU and splatoon or mariokart? And in the case of splatoon its even a NEW IP!!!!!

I am not going to derail this thread but to anwser your post look below.

2009 ODST

2010 Reach

2011 Halo Anniversary

2012 Halo 4

2013 Halo Spartan Assualt

2014 Halo MCC

2015 Halo 5

2016 Halo Wars 2**

2017 Halo 6

So yes Halo comes out yearly.

Thank me later.



Azzanation said:
Intrinsic said:

Ive mostly been ignoring you till you made this ridicuous post.

So just to be clear, Halo comes out every year? I honestky didnt know that? Being that the first halo was released in 2002.... shouldnt we be on Halo 16 now?

And all that talk about userbase has to be the most post moving crap i have heard. What will you say about the wiiU and splatoon or mariokart? And in the case of splatoon its even a NEW IP!!!!!

I am not going to derail this thread but to anwser your post look below.

2009 ODST

2010 Reach

2011 Halo Anniversary

2012 Halo 4

2013 Halo Spartan Assualt

2014 Halo MCC

2015 Halo 5

2016 Halo Wars 2**

2017 Halo 6

So yes Halo comes out yearly.

Thank me later.

you kidding me? so that is what you mean by come out yearly? throw in eveey spin off title and remaster like its a mainline title. By that logic we can say Final fantasy comes out on average 2 times every year going all the way back to 2007



barneystinson69 said:
Kerotan said:

Meh the uncharted collection sold more than Halo 5 so far.  I'm pretty sure uncharted 4 will outsell the collection.  

 

@doom split 

That's actually are really good and surprising victory for the ps4. Never thought doom would be so Playstation focused. 

The uncharted collection was one of the main bundle's for the PS4 throughout the holiday season. NPD numbers without bundle's already showed it did far less (around 250k).

But that works both ways. The reason forza has such long legs is bundles.  Yet I don't see you or others recognising that.  Instead you just praise it.  So you should praise uncharted.  

 

And that's off point. My point was the uncharted collection outsold halo and I can't see anyway that uncharted 4 doesn't outsell the collection therefore halo. 



Intrinsic said:
Azzanation said:

I am not going to derail this thread but to anwser your post look below.

2009 ODST

2010 Reach

2011 Halo Anniversary

2012 Halo 4

2013 Halo Spartan Assualt

2014 Halo MCC

2015 Halo 5

2016 Halo Wars 2**

2017 Halo 6

So yes Halo comes out yearly.

Thank me later.

you kidding me? so that is what you mean by come out yearly? throw in eveey spin off title and remaster like its a mainline title. By that logic we can say Final fantasy comes out on average 2 times every year going all the way back to 2007

Final Fantasy have over 90 Tittles in 28-30 Years of Franchise so is a little more than 3 Tittles per year.



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Azzanation said:
CGI-Quality said:

No denying it, man. As of now, Halo is a series in decline. This isn't to say that the follow-up can't sell better than Halo 5, but as it stands, you can't know what it would/wouldn't do on the PS4 and you certainly don't know if it is still a bigger IP than Uncharted based on anything in this gen, thus far.

Define Bigger? Because if you Wiki Halo and Uncharted you will find Halo as a franchise is in another league to Uncharted when it comes to a bigger franchise.

*The games have sold over 65 million copies worldwide, with the games alone grossing almost $3.4 billion*

*Strong sales of the games led to the franchise's expansion to other media; there are multiple best-selling novels, graphic novels, and other licensed products.*

Thats not including Halo 5 sales and its gross income.

Now if you Wiki Uncharted you will barely find anything there. This isnt me trying to one up Halo and down grade Uncharted, but to say you dont know which one is a bigger IP is strange. You might aswell say God of War is a bigger IP to Minecraft.

How is Halo in the decline? Because Halo 5 sold 4m copies? Halo 4 sold 9m copies at the end of its life and i remember many gamers saying the same thing for Halo 4 on release. Halo 5 could and up selling 7-9m at the end of its life because unlike most games, Halo games have legs and until the next release, Halo 5 is still a game being sold in stores and will be for quite some time.

*Halo 5: Guardians and game-related hardware grossed over US$400 million in its first twenty-four hours and US$500 million in its first week*

Judging from these stats, i dont see the decline. Your basing success off game sales only and not the actrually brand. Expect Halo 6 to be even bigger and better.

I Still think that those  "*Halo 5: Guardians and game-related hardware grossed over US$400 million in its first twenty-four hours and US$500 million in its first week*" are Shipped units atleast, because 400US Millions in 24 Hours means 6.6-6.7 Millions of Units sold or over 1 Million of Halo 5 bundles.

If we take into gaming only Uncharted Franchise is worth over 2 Billions of US$ not too far away from Halo (which was the first one to include Hardware in the Revenue Statement) the other forms of Midia are Advertisement for the franchise, and this does not means that is something big only because it exist, for it to be something big it need to be famous (the TV, Animated Series, HQ) for people who don't play the games, like Yu Gi Oh, and Pokemon, are famous in other Midias, Making things in other Midia was just the way Microsoft chose to market it, But Halo isn't famous out-side of Gaming.

Halo's developers (Or it was Aaron Greenberg ?) said that Halo franchise is in the same level  for gaming as Star Wars Franchise is to movies, this is a Misleading statement, because Star Wars is known even for the ones who don't see movies or for the ones who never saw Star Wars and Halo 5 isn't in this level of Popularity neither Uncharted.



Swordmasterman said:
Intrinsic said:

you kidding me? so that is what you mean by come out yearly? throw in eveey spin off title and remaster like its a mainline title. By that logic we can say Final fantasy comes out on average 2 times every year going all the way back to 2007

Final Fantasy have over 90 Tittles in 28-30 Years of Franchise so is a little more than 3 Tittles per year.

Exactly. And he doesnt even seem to understand that the reason Halo or rather so many games were made thay tied ro the Halo name was because MS jusy didnt have a lot of high profule IPs so they milked out what they did have as nuch as possible.

I mean just look at this year, by E3 this year ms would have released less than 3/4 exclusives for the whole of the year. And im even adding console exclusives to that list. 



Kerotan said:
barneystinson69 said:

The uncharted collection was one of the main bundle's for the PS4 throughout the holiday season. NPD numbers without bundle's already showed it did far less (around 250k).

But that works both ways. The reason forza has such long legs is bundles.  Yet I don't see you or others recognising that.  Instead you just praise it.  So you should praise uncharted.  

 

And that's off point. My point was the uncharted collection outsold halo and I can't see anyway that uncharted 4 doesn't outsell the collection therefore halo. 

There's a different. Forza had a limited edition bundle that hardly was considered a "main bundle". Your point makes no sense as the comparison isn't fair



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

barneystinson69 said:
Kerotan said:

But that works both ways. The reason forza has such long legs is bundles.  Yet I don't see you or others recognising that.  Instead you just praise it.  So you should praise uncharted.  

 

And that's off point. My point was the uncharted collection outsold halo and I can't see anyway that uncharted 4 doesn't outsell the collection therefore halo. 

There's a different. Forza had a limited edition bundle that hardly was considered a "main bundle". Your point makes no sense as the comparison isn't fair

In the UK,  forza is commonly bundled in stores hence why it's charting high.  it's very relevant.  And past forza games on 360 had mass bundling in the US. You can't deny that. 



I thought that Yokai Watch was going to be a big hit in Europe u.u Let´s wait til the second game launch to really see how this saga moves :) It truly deserves more sales u.u