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Zekkyou on 06 May 2016
spemanig said:
Zekkyou said:

(I feel like we might be talking about two different things. Are you talking on a purely technical level, e.g. graphics, physics, pretty pots and pans. Or are you using 'technical' in the broad sense, so all in-game design decisions? I'm going to assume the former for this post, but i apologize if it's the latter and i'm just confused ^^. I'd still disagree in many respects, but for different reasons).

I know we have significantly different opinions on what constitutes good technical prioritize (outside of personal preference, i don't think any of their technical prioritize are inherently better than the others, bar UC4 pushing the technical boat out the furthest, and MGS5 the least), but when judging a game on a technical front its 'luxuries' are definitely important. The resource cost of your basic design necessities relative to your visual goals (hallways vs forest, slow vs fast, etc) directly effect how much you can spend on 'luxuries' (content of the hallways vs quality of the trees, etc). You have to consider all that when deciding if A or B are overall the more technically impressive, regardless to opinions of the intelligence of a decision.

I wholeheartedly agree that 1886 is a mess, but i think that relates more to its gameplay and story design. I firmly believe that 1886's problems primarily stem from RaD's seemingly obsessive need to control everything that happens to the player. It's fine to have very narrow technical prioritize, there are games that have taken it even further than 1886 and still been great, but that becomes irrelevant if you're going to fail to balance everything else. There's no point trying to pull me into your world with stunning visuals when that world's a boring/messy place to be.

I mean technically more visually impressive. As in, how good does everything look from a techical point of view that cannot be made up by something more subjective like art style?

That's why I don't think it's important to take those luxuries into account at all. They chose to make the game more open, and they knew the game would look worse for it. They chose to make the game run at 30fps instead of 60fps, and they new their game would look better for it. They were in charge of their luxuries, and they were prepared for the benefits and downfalls of budgeting them.

But I don't want to keep going though, as I think I've dragged this far enough.

Fair enough. Do you mind if i PM you? I'm really rather confused. It feels like you're disagreeing with my original comment, but your reasons as to why make it feel like we're having two different conversations.



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GribbleGrunger on 06 May 2016

From one of the Digital Foundry guys who posts on GAF:



Originally Posted by dark10x

The return of this topic is silly to me having finished the game and my coverage video of it. Uncharted 4 is THE most technically accomplished console game on the market today. I guarantee people are going to be absolutely floored by what has been accomplished here - and not just the big stuff either. There are a lot of techniques used in UC4 that really should be adopted by other studios, if possible, as they truly are a game changer.



 

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celador on 06 May 2016

Well this was bollocks.

Three non Uncharted adverts so far

Edit: Five now. Guess they moved it



GribbleGrunger on 06 May 2016
celador said:

Well this was bollocks.

Three non Uncharted adverts so far

Edit: Five now. Guess they moved it

They had a full ad break with some new footage.



 

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celador on 06 May 2016
GribbleGrunger said:
celador said:

Well this was bollocks.

Three non Uncharted adverts so far

Edit: Five now. Guess they moved it

They had a full ad break with some new footage.

Don't think it was new. It was part of one of the previous trailers



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GribbleGrunger on 06 May 2016
celador said:

Don't think it was new. It was part of one of the previous trailers

I saw some new snippets.



 

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thewreckingball on 06 May 2016
spemanig said:
JRPGfan said:
"We believe Uncharted 4 is the best-looking game ever made, which is a bold statement and one we want to reinforce,"

I have a hard time thinking of anything that actually looks better.
So they probably arnt that far off the mark.

The Order looks significantly more technically impressive.

LOL what What are you basing this off? Cherry picked compressed videos and screen shots? UC4 is on anohter level of even The order, it is down right amazing what ND has accomplished with PS4,  the guy who does digital foundry posted on GAF and said how far ahead ND and UC4 is compared to anything else out.  Digital foundry's article is going to make your post look awful silly. 

 

Originally Posted by dark10x

The return of this topic is silly to me having finished the game and my coverage video of it. Uncharted 4 is THE most technically accomplished console game on the market today. I guarantee people are going to be absolutely floored by what has been accomplished here - and not just the big stuff either. There are a lot of techniques used in UC4 that really should be adopted by other studios, if possible, as they truly are a game changer.

 

So what do you have that counters digital foundry's analysis?



Frogger on 06 May 2016
Zekkyou said:

Fair enough. Do you mind if i PM you? I'm really rather confused. It feels like you're disagreeing with my original comment, but your reasons as to why make it feel like we're having two different conversations.

Yeah, go ahead.



thewreckingball on 06 May 2016
spemanig said:
Zekkyou said:

Fair enough. Do you mind if i PM you? I'm really rather confused. It feels like you're disagreeing with my original comment, but your reasons as to why make it feel like we're having two different conversations.

Yeah, go ahead.

LOL what What are you basing this off? Cherry picked compressed videos and screen shots? UC4 is on anohter level of even The order, it is down right amazing what ND has accomplished with PS4,  the guy who does digital foundry posted on GAF and said how far ahead ND and UC4 is compared to anything else out.  Digital foundry's article is going to make your post look awful silly. 

 

Originally Posted by dark10x

The return of this topic is silly to me having finished the game and my coverage video of it. Uncharted 4 is THE most technically accomplished console game on the market today. I guarantee people are going to be absolutely floored by what has been accomplished here - and not just the big stuff either. There are a lot of techniques used in UC4 that really should be adopted by other studios, if possible, as they truly are a game changer.

 

So what do you have that counters digital foundry's analysis?

 

Still waiting for your analysis.