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JRPGfan on 05 May 2016
V-r0cK said:
Does this mean we'll get NX Roms for download on the internet?? I am down!

Just wait 15years for the emulator!

 

foolalay said:
I'm all for this. No install times ftw!

I honestly miss cartridges. I would love to see them make a comeback.

 

KungKras said:
If they go cartridges I'll buy their system even if its only game is Hotel Mario 2.

I love cartridges!

But it raises a lot of questions. How would patches work? Probably the same as CD's with paches being on a hard drive.

If they can make them cheaper than CDs that's great. But can they really?

It would lower the cost of the system since it doesn't need a disc drive, which is great.

If they go digital only I'm out of console gaming for good though.

Yep no Disc drive = smaller system = less space taken up on shelves / shipping ect.

You save costs of the drive, and make the system less error proun (disc read failurs kills alot of consoles).

You can also save on Hard drives. If games are mostly run from the cartridge you can ship a console with a small hard disk.

All that drives down the price of the console => more hardware sales.



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dongo8 on 05 May 2016
KungKras said:
If they go cartridges I'll buy their system even if its only game is Hotel Mario 2.

I love cartridges!

But it raises a lot of questions. How would patches work? Probably the same as CD's with paches being on a hard drive.

If they can make them cheaper than CDs that's great. But can they really?

It would lower the cost of the system since it doesn't need a disc drive, which is great.

If they go digital only I'm out of console gaming for good though.

It's not that they can make them cheaper than discs, it's that the difference between the price of a disc/gb compared to the price of a ROM/gb is now cents on the dollar...like I think it's only a 10 cent difference/gb to produce a cartridge vs. a disc when in mass production. This cost makes it possible for Nintendo to move back to cartridges and charge the same price for their games, because in most cases it will only be a slightly higher production cost to make the cartridge rather than the disc. Plus if a lot of people are like me, they will have BOTH the handheld and the console, and Nintendo will only need to produce these games once (If these theories are correct) for both, meaning less production costs in that sense as well. Hopefully everything plays out smoothly and our thories are correct haha.



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Frogger on 05 May 2016
JRPGfan said:
spemanig said:

Obviously it's going to be above the usual. They are ordering 3DS cards AND NX ROM, for the console itself. No where does it say "many many times." Nowhere does it use exponentials. You're seeing what you want to see.

1) "Above and beyound, the usual."

Thats the same as saying many many times over normal amounts.

No, it isn't. It only means more than. Many times is multiplicative. Above and beyond is additive. Simple english.

2) "They are ordering 3DS cards AND NX ROM, for the console itself."

The article makes it sound like they are sure the ROMs are for cartridges, not like system bios's.

The article is based solely off of Neogaf speculation that has been discredited numerous times on the site itself by other users, not fact or even rumor. The actual quote doesn't remotely allude to cartridges.

spemanig said:

ROMs aren't cartridges.

ROM is memory thats written to only once, when its made.

And is never again written to. Thats why its called "Read only memory" (ROM).

And yes ROM is used in cartridges.

And BIOS. So I am right. I know what ROM is. ROMs aren't cartidges.


Frogger on 05 May 2016

"So, particularly with digital downloads now and the idea that you're downloading the right to play a game, that opens up the ability to have multiple platform digital downloads where you can download on one and download on another. Certainly from a development standpoint there is some challenge to it, because if you have two devices that have different specs and you're being told to design in a way that the game runs on both devices, then that can be challenging for the developer—but if you have a more unified development environment and you're able to make one game that runs on both systems instead of having to make a game for each system, that's an area of opportunity for us." - Miyamoto (2014 or something)

TLDR - The NX will totally use carts bro! I mean, unified platform an' all that, right?



bunchanumbers on 05 May 2016
setsunatenshi said:
no price increase from using roms instead of disks? that's only if Nintendo wants to eat the costs. not to mention limiting the media capabilities (bluray/dvds)

having said that I'd be down with an online store only option that was cheaper. I'm 100% digital by now anyway

Nintendo never did the media thing anyway. They never allowed video playback on their stuff. So its not like we're really missing out.



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Frogger on 05 May 2016
bunchanumbers said:

Nintendo never did the media thing anyway. They never allowed video playback on their stuff. So its not like we're really missing out.

They already have Netflix, Hulu, HBO Go (I think), and Youtube. Plus you can look up any movie ever made online through their browser via streaming sites.

They don't need physical media video playback.



Low78wagon on 05 May 2016
KungKras said:
If they go cartridges I'll buy their system even if its only game is Hotel Mario 2.

I love cartridges!

But it raises a lot of questions. How would patches work? Probably the same as CD's with paches being on a hard drive.

If they can make them cheaper than CDs that's great. But can they really?

It would lower the cost of the system since it doesn't need a disc drive, which is great.

If they go digital only I'm out of console gaming for good though.

All of this^^^ I might get a boner if they announce cartridges.



Lonely_Dolphin on 05 May 2016

N64 situation all over again let's go!



V-r0cK on 05 May 2016
JRPGfan said:
V-r0cK said:
Does this mean we'll get NX Roms for download on the internet?? I am down!

Just wait 15years for the emulator!

If the NX library is as lacking like the Wii U's I can wait 15yrs lol xD



Ultrashroomz on 05 May 2016

Meh not sure how I feel about this.

Third party devs will probably be alienated if it does happen.



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