| d21lewis said: I love most comic book films. I grew up in the 90's! I appreciate what we have, now! |
But Superman's run during the 90s was mostly good, starting with the Burne era in 1985!
| d21lewis said: I love most comic book films. I grew up in the 90's! I appreciate what we have, now! |
But Superman's run during the 90s was mostly good, starting with the Burne era in 1985!
DonFerrari said:
Are you sure we watched the same movie? You wanted Iron Man to win the fight, imprision their friends and let the villain win and ONU to hold them back and never solve anything? |
Yes.
Hynad said:
But Superman's run during the 90s was mostly good, starting with the Burne era in 1985! |
I'm talking about movies. We had Shaquille O'Neal as Steel, Billy Zane as The Phantom, Jim Carey's The Mask, Joel Schumacher's Bat Films, etc. Now comic movies are treated with love, even if they're crap. Fan4stic would have been a timeless classic compared to some of the poop we got back then.
d21lewis said:
Fan4stic would have been a timeless classic compared to some of the poop we got back then. |
That would only happen. If ALL the movies made in the last 16 years were total shit. Or didn't exsist. People have standards on what is good and what is bad. Because of all these films. In a way, Fox is helping Marvel. They make the shit. Marvel knows what people will boycot. And then they end up looking good.
DonFerrari said:
In times of war I would say that was totally justifiable. In Brazil we also had severe restrictions against German, Italian and Japanese during WW2. And even so I would say the USA government of that time was a lot better than today. I fail to see how this camp would show how corrupt and power hungry were the government against today standars. |
I'm not even sure where to begin. Brazil doing it doesn't mean it's OK for the USA to do it. [edit: Nor Brazil, for that matter.] And these weren't people that the government had any evidence against. Lots of them weren't even people who had come from Japan. Their parents had, or their grandparents. They were United States citizens, born and raised in the USA and shipped from the only home they had known to a military prison camp with inadequate food, shelter, education (many of them children), medicine, etc. Many of them lost their property while they were held, not to mention lost income. I'm not aware that they were compensated at all upon their release, although decades later (1980s or 90s?) there was some compensation and a public apology from the US government.
There was little real wartime justification for the action. What made these Japanese descendants more dangerous than German descendants?
In what way do you argue that holding less than 1,000 people accused of terrorism in Guantanamo is not as bad as holding over 100,000 people accused of nothing in these interment camps?
Additionally, the Supreme Court upheld these actions repeatedly (albeit in narrow decisions that ignored the main question in favor of refusing the appeal on other grounds that let the actions happen), which is one of the most shameful chapters of the Court's history.
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Final-Fan said:
The prequel to Watchmen? |
LOL, my type-O. Funny. There is no prequel. I ment "Watchmen."
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I'm not even sure where to begin. Brazil doing it doesn't mean it's OK for the USA to do it. [edit: Nor Brazil, for that matter.] And these weren't people that the government had any evidence against. Lots of them weren't even people who had come from Japan. Their parents had, or their grandparents. They were United States citizens, born and raised in the USA and shipped from the only home they had known to a military prison camp with inadequate food, shelter, education (many of them children), medicine, etc. Many of them lost their property while they were held, not to mention lost income. I'm not aware that they were compensated at all upon their release, although decades later (1980s or 90s?) there was some compensation and a public apology from the US government. In what way do you argue that holding less than 1,000 people accused of terrorism in Guantanamo is not as bad as holding over 100,000 people accused of nothing in these interment camps? |
It seems you ignore the potential for spies and that if you read japanese fiction/stories you would see that is a common trait they had for make root spies that could stay dorment for generations.
So yes, it was justifiable to hold people that could possibly endanger the rest of the population in a camp during the time they could have acted. The newer germans should as well be held? Probably, but there were also those that had no ties with German anymore. As far as I know Japanese at the time were very guetto people.

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| DonFerrari said: It seems you ignore the potential for spies and that if you read japanese fiction/stories you would see that is a common trait they had for make root spies that could stay dorment for generations. So yes, it was justifiable to hold people that could possibly endanger the rest of the population in a camp during the time they could have acted. The newer germans should as well be held? Probably, but there were also those that had no ties with German anymore. As far as I know Japanese at the time were very guetto people. |
That is an excellent point my friend, and surely Americans of the time knew this well. They shared the same trait, you see, as proved in Marvel Comics where American HYDRA agents were able to blend into society perfectly and infiltrate SHIELD for decades until the right moment to strike.
(Thus we come full circle and everyone can see the sense of debating this issue in a Captain America thread.)
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Seems to be :P
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