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oniyide on 31 March 2016
zorg1000 said:
oniyide said:

serious question, when was the last time Ninty did that if ever? I think the days of Ninty having that kind of power are long over.

touch screen & motion control gaming maybe? Which are incorporated in nearly every gaming device now.

Nintenso sold over 250 million units of hardware and nearly 2 billion units of software last generation.

Motion control isnt anywhere near as big as it was, if it was that important Ninty wouldnt have dropped it. Kinect would still be around and Sony would have moved on with Move. Touch screen pretty sure phones and tablets have more to do with that. 

Yes they did great last gen. what about now?



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zorg1000 on 31 March 2016
oniyide said:
zorg1000 said:

touch screen & motion control gaming maybe? Which are incorporated in nearly every gaming device now.

Nintenso sold over 250 million units of hardware and nearly 2 billion units of software last generation.

Motion control isnt anywhere near as big as it was, if it was that important Ninty wouldnt have dropped it. Kinect would still be around and Sony would have moved on with Move. Touch screen pretty sure phones and tablets have more to do with that. 

Yes they did great last gen. what about now?

The Wii U gamepad has motion controls, many games still use the Wii Remote, phones/tablets utilize motion controls, PSVR/Oculus/Vive all use motion controls.

Phones/Tablets use touch controls which account for billions of devices.

Pretty much every post-Wii/DS device with gaming as a feature utlizes motion controls, touch controls or both.



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zorg1000 on 31 March 2016
oniyide said:
zorg1000 said:

PS4tw said Nintendo thinks maturity means half-naked women running around, the fact that games made by them tone these things down shows they dont feel its mature to include them.

fair enough. I'll go on record and say I dont agree with his assestment on Ninty and maturity, I just thought the comparison to Metal Gear was a bad one.

he is the one who brought up Metal Gear, i just pointed out that the series does the same thing, not to the extent of Bayonetta but thats beside the point, Metal Gear does have nudity/revealing costumes.



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oniyide on 31 March 2016
zorg1000 said:
oniyide said:

Motion control isnt anywhere near as big as it was, if it was that important Ninty wouldnt have dropped it. Kinect would still be around and Sony would have moved on with Move. Touch screen pretty sure phones and tablets have more to do with that. 

Yes they did great last gen. what about now?

The Wii U gamepad has motion controls, many games still use the Wii Remote, phones/tablets utilize motion controls, PSVR/Oculus/Vive all use motion controls.

Phones/Tablets use touch controls which account for billions of devices.

Pretty much every post-Wii/DS device with gaming as a feature utlizes motion controls, touch controls or both.

The Wii U flopped so people clearly didnt care enough to return for 2nds,  we dont know how well VR will do, but lets be real the selling point for those arent the motion controls. phones and tablets would have used that tech regardless. We're not gonna act like Ninty was responsible for those devices using that tech especially since it existed before the Wii anyway.

Again Ninty had little to do with that as those devices were already heading in that touch direction.



zorg1000 on 31 March 2016
oniyide said:
zorg1000 said:

The Wii U gamepad has motion controls, many games still use the Wii Remote, phones/tablets utilize motion controls, PSVR/Oculus/Vive all use motion controls.

Phones/Tablets use touch controls which account for billions of devices.

Pretty much every post-Wii/DS device with gaming as a feature utlizes motion controls, touch controls or both.

The Wii U flopped so people clearly didnt care enough to return for 2nds,  we dont know how well VR will do, but lets be real the selling point for those arent the motion controls. phones and tablets would have used that tech regardless. We're not gonna act like Ninty was responsible for those devices using that tech especially since it existed before the Wii anyway.

Again Ninty had little to do with that as those devices were already heading in that touch direction.

Wii & DS were the first truly successful touch & motion controlled gaming devices now billions of devices have those features. Take that however you like.



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freebs2 on 31 March 2016
oniyide said:
freebs2 said:

Yes, how exactly that contradicts my statement?

I said the WiiU wasn't designed to be a complementary console, and neither was the Wii. Here Iwata is admitting (in 2015) that WiiU is considered by players a second choice console. You're confusing intents with factual situations.

i was agreeing with and just posted the link to show that

Sorry, I misunderstood.



oniyide on 31 March 2016
zorg1000 said:
oniyide said:

The Wii U flopped so people clearly didnt care enough to return for 2nds,  we dont know how well VR will do, but lets be real the selling point for those arent the motion controls. phones and tablets would have used that tech regardless. We're not gonna act like Ninty was responsible for those devices using that tech especially since it existed before the Wii anyway.

Again Ninty had little to do with that as those devices were already heading in that touch direction.

Wii & DS were the first truly successful touch & motion controlled gaming devices now billions of devices have those features. Take that however you like.

gaming devices sure. But what does that have to do with phones and tablets? FYI the first touchscreen phone was released in the 90s take that how you like it



zorg1000 on 31 March 2016
oniyide said:
zorg1000 said:

Wii & DS were the first truly successful touch & motion controlled gaming devices now billions of devices have those features. Take that however you like.

gaming devices sure. But what does that have to do with phones and tablets? FYI the first touchscreen phone was released in the 90s take that how you like it

the gaming aspect of phones/tablets revolves around touch & motion.



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oniyide on 31 March 2016
SpokenTruth said:
oniyide said:

Motion control isnt anywhere near as big as it was, if it was that important Ninty wouldnt have dropped it. Kinect would still be around and Sony would have moved on with Move. Touch screen pretty sure phones and tablets have more to do with that. 

Yes they did great last gen. what about now?

Your question is answered already.  When you quoted me before.  Go back to the part you didn't bold. 

what could they have done this gen that would have changed there fortunes or get them Wii numbers again? cause im not quite sure another wiimote would have done it.



oniyide on 31 March 2016
zorg1000 said:
oniyide said:

gaming devices sure. But what does that have to do with phones and tablets? FYI the first touchscreen phone was released in the 90s take that how you like it

the gaming aspect of phones/tablets revolves around touch & motion.

there was touch and PRIOR to the Wii and DS they were doing touch in phones already. You mean to tell me that they would not be implemented in the games for phones anyway? I dont think people are buying phones for games anyway.