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Conina said:
So an ARM-SoC more powerful than the PS4-APU? That would be a big leap to the fastest ARM-SoCs available now (Tegra X1 + Apple A9X).

I don't think so.
OdinHades said:
There is no ARM chip that is more powerful than the PS4. Nintendo would have to use a dedicated GPU, which would drive up costs as well as energy consumption. There is no reason whatsoever to roll with ARM for a home console. Fake.

Currently there aren't such CPUs or APUs, but they are feasible, and AMD has higher end aRM products in its plans, so it's simply not possible with the currently available chips, not in absolute.

WolfpackN64 said:
What's the point of going ARM? They could stick to the POWER architecture and maintain BC. I'm sure IBM with its OpenPower would happily design a costum core for Nintendo.

This is a good point, if they want to stick to RISC architecture, POWER, besides BC with the last three Ninty consoles, already offers the widest scalability amongst architectures, and even not adopting the latest POWER 8 versions (but scaling it to the right specs for a console could be the best option also for cost effectiveness), POWER 7 or 7+ scaled to console specs could already offer a giant performance leap at a cheap price, there are for example 16-core lightweight POWER CPUs cheap and low-power consuming enough for routers, for example. AMD could provide a suitable GPU and it could also collaborate with IBM to put everything in a single chip APU, to save space, power and costs.

The rumor is a fake, but not for the CPU it suggests, that's actually the part that could make more sense.



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jason1637 said:

Did he or she say what company that they got fired from?

NOA marketing more than likely.  The guy says he's from marketing.  The only people with this kind of info right now are likely NCL/NOA/NOE employees. The PR and marketing department needs to be prepped if this thing is launching this year. And he said he hasn't been treated very well, hence the leaks and Trev's leaks and source made it worse and he confirms that only Trev's source has been legit.  I doubt he's from Europe, doubt he's from NCL, so that pretty much leaves NOA marketing or PR didvisions unless of course he's lying.  But I'm guessing with things so loose since Iwata's death, the restructuring, NX nda being so strict and noone talking and that department under pressure, maybe someone cracked?

Who knows anymore really. I'm just waiting until one or more of this is proven false or true to revisit it.



TheSpindler said:
jason1637 said:

Did he or she say what company that they got fired from?

NOA marketing more than likely.  The guy says he's from marketing.  The only people with this kind of info right now are likely NCL/NOA/NOE employees. The PR and marketing department needs to be prepped if this thing is launching this year. And he said he hasn't been treated very well, hence the leaks and Trev's leaks and source made it worse and he confirms that only Trev's source has been legit.  I doubt he's from Europe, doubt he's from NCL, so that pretty much leaves NOA marketing or PR didvisions unless of course he's lying.  But I'm guessing with things so loose since Iwata's death, the restructuring, NX nda being so strict and noone talking and that department under pressure, maybe someone cracked?

Who knows anymore really. I'm just waiting until one or more of this is proven false or true to revisit it.

Many rumors have been talking about there being some sort of reveal April so ill look forward to that



-The Legend of Zelda game is called The Legend of Zelda: Fields of Dawn-NX version''


Looks so fakeeee...




jason1637 said:

Many rumors have been talking about there being some sort of reveal April so ill look forward to that

Yeah, there's another rumour I found saying April reveal as well, see bolded;
Cross post:

-Dev in question will have his game out in December-seems to be a port, it's already out already, an RPG

-I posted a rumour a while back and someone asked him about it, he said-"A lot seems to be right mixed up with some very obvious bullshit to throw people off, I imagine. I can tell you this, the name is not what that post says it is."

-It's a more traditional console, no 'new' way to play. His devkit comes with a standard controller and a a controller with a screen(screen is capacitive)-he describes it as -"The touch screen one is a bit harder to describe- imagine, like, a Wii U Pro, but stretched, and with a small screen embedded in the middle". 

-Nintendo is pushing online more than before

-It's not x86, porting could be difficult, but it is easy to develop for, no obvious bottlenecks.

- "there is no single metric where the console is weaker than the PS4. At worst it matches it. Development is extremely easy,"

-There are scrolling buttons-the L and R buttons(are clickable, can be depressed). The triggers are analog

-Knows nothing about the handheld. He speculates Nintendo might have some AR gimmicks, but not the central point of the console he thinks.

-Says the controller with the screen doesn't seem to be as expensive as the WIi U controller, no guidelines for remote play. He speculates they could sell it as two SKUs, one with the screen and one without. He thinks embedded remote play could be the selling point of the former.

-Nintendo plans a Q2 reveal of the console, he's been told to have a trailer and demo build ready, to be deployed at a short notice anytime starting April. -I'm guessing April Direct and Nintendo Treehouse intervies and demos maybe?-

-Specs wise
"It is more powerful than the PS4 by any sensible metric. Overall, it is at least slightly more powerful
12GB on ours. A substantial portion may not be available to games (we can only go as high as 6GB right now)
1TB embedded HDD, pretty sure this is not the case for the consumer version, though
I'll tell you it's not x86 (but you can probably guess what it is)"

-It aims for connectivity with mobile devices

-About Online
"The online is definitely far better this time around. In general, it seems like we can 'plug in' (so to speak) loads of online features into our games without having to worrying about whether the backend even supports them, that we never could on Nintendo systems before. There's not much online functionality in our game, but even basic features that were missing before are present here."
"From a features perspective, however, I can confirm they are on par with the competition this time =)"

-This post seems to be accurate to him
https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoNX/comments/4c1ji6/before_april_fools_rolls_around_i_want_to_clear/

-You are extremely unlikely to get any photo leaks before the NX is announced officially by Nintendo. The studios (that I know of) that are building / porting to NX only have access to software. Some of these are not particularly small studios either.
Based on the length of development cycles / porting time - if the NX launches this year, then most third party games will not be available until early - mid 2017. Software / frameworks are great to get a head start, but they won't even consider finalizing a game until it's been fully tested on hardware.
Developers who claim to have signed an NDA with Nintendo are most probably lying. The studio will be under NDA with Nintendo and the developers/designers will be under some form of NDA from their studio (not Nintendo). The only exception would be small indie developers and it's very unlikely Nintendo would provide them with a development kit until after the reveal.
NX games will be able to share information across multiple devices. I am not 100% sure what type of information this will be, but the functionality is (apparently) available to third party developers.

-On the OS
"The OS seems to be fully accessible while the game is running. I can confirm that multitasking is a thing. The devkit can interact with Android and iOS tablets and phones, as well as PCs and Macs (I specifically tested for a Mac). From what I have been able to gather- and this part is strictly speculation- I think that the console will be able to construct a full profile for you by having you just pair up with a smartphone or tablet or PC, without you having to set one up."
"You can do this with games, although obviously, you need to have the other device programmed to be able to communicate with the console. In simple terms, games with smartphone apps will be able to instantly connect with their apps on phones or tablets, without nonsensical logins and pairings and synchronizations, and what not."
It resembles Android the most, a very bloated OS, in its current form. OS reserves 6GB, seems to run mostly fine.

-On the console and its relation to its other versions and other console hardware
"I think this version of the game is definitive, at least on consoles. It looks the best, performs the best, and has extra content included."
"It is a powerful, flexible traditional console, with very minor gimmicks that don't get in the way. Very unlike Nintendo, at least the Nintendo of the last 15 years."
:Uh, I'll make this my last answer for now: if the PS4.5 is real, I think it and the NX should be reasonably matched."

Keep in mind however, his game is a port and is already out on PS4 and XBO, and he likely has not had hands on the PS4.5.

-The EXT port interests him, has no idea what it is for, Nintendo is mum on it-it reminds him of the port on the bottom of a GC-. He has never worked on Nintendo console before. 

-Disc is 25GB, dual layered discs are specified in the documentation

-Has HDMI 2.0a, USB 3.0, SD card slots and a LAN port, well his devkit has one anyway, but he doesn't think it will be on the final console.

-No backwards compatibility with Wii U or 3DS hardware

-"It is not a true hybrid. Looking into it, a lot of Geno's information seems to be false. As for whether or not this will be a flop- I can't predict that. I think it should do well. It is a well designed, good console, powerful, and Nintendo's third party outreach seems to be better this time around. I guess as long as Nintendo markets it well, it should do better than Wii U or Gamecube."

-His game has been in development since October, the first couple of months were on a software kit.

-He thinks the price will come in at $399, he thinks $250 seems unlikely, $300 maybe more likely.

-Maybe no OS level achievements? Interactive achievements are a thing, more like challenges or missions, but his dev team are implementing them as achievements.

-He says the name is 'marketable', says the Wii U was a terrible name.




Yah that's it. Like my previous post with that leaker, take with a mount fuji of salt. Keep in mind too he also says some things are wrong about the other guy's stuff. 

EDIT: Bah forgot to include link, https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoNX/comments/4cnkr8/i_am_a_developer_working_on_an_rpg_for_the_nx_ask/?sort=confidence



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TheSpindler said:
jason1637 said:

Many rumors have been talking about there being some sort of reveal April so ill look forward to that

Yeah, there's another rumour I found saying April reveal as well, see bolded;
Cross post:

-Dev in question will have his game out in December-seems to be a port, it's already out already, an RPG

-I posted a rumour a while back and someone asked him about it, he said-"A lot seems to be right mixed up with some very obvious bullshit to throw people off, I imagine. I can tell you this, the name is not what that post says it is."

-It's a more traditional console, no 'new' way to play. His devkit comes with a standard controller and a a controller with a screen(screen is capacitive)-he describes it as -"The touch screen one is a bit harder to describe- imagine, like, a Wii U Pro, but stretched, and with a small screen embedded in the middle". 

-Nintendo is pushing online more than before

-It's not x86, porting could be difficult, but it is easy to develop for, no obvious bottlenecks.

- "there is no single metric where the console is weaker than the PS4. At worst it matches it. Development is extremely easy,"

-There are scrolling buttons-the L and R buttons(are clickable, can be depressed). The triggers are analog

-Knows nothing about the handheld. He speculates Nintendo might have some AR gimmicks, but not the central point of the console he thinks.

-Says the controller with the screen doesn't seem to be as expensive as the WIi U controller, no guidelines for remote play. He speculates they could sell it as two SKUs, one with the screen and one without. He thinks embedded remote play could be the selling point of the former.

-Nintendo plans a Q2 reveal of the console, he's been told to have a trailer and demo build ready, to be deployed at a short notice anytime starting April. -I'm guessing April Direct and Nintendo Treehouse intervies and demos maybe?-

-Specs wise
"It is more powerful than the PS4 by any sensible metric. Overall, it is at least slightly more powerful
12GB on ours. A substantial portion may not be available to games (we can only go as high as 6GB right now)
1TB embedded HDD, pretty sure this is not the case for the consumer version, though
I'll tell you it's not x86 (but you can probably guess what it is)"

-It aims for connectivity with mobile devices

-About Online
"The online is definitely far better this time around. In general, it seems like we can 'plug in' (so to speak) loads of online features into our games without having to worrying about whether the backend even supports them, that we never could on Nintendo systems before. There's not much online functionality in our game, but even basic features that were missing before are present here."
"From a features perspective, however, I can confirm they are on par with the competition this time =)"

-This post seems to be accurate to him
https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoNX/comments/4c1ji6/before_april_fools_rolls_around_i_want_to_clear/

-You are extremely unlikely to get any photo leaks before the NX is announced officially by Nintendo. The studios (that I know of) that are building / porting to NX only have access to software. Some of these are not particularly small studios either.
Based on the length of development cycles / porting time - if the NX launches this year, then most third party games will not be available until early - mid 2017. Software / frameworks are great to get a head start, but they won't even consider finalizing a game until it's been fully tested on hardware.
Developers who claim to have signed an NDA with Nintendo are most probably lying. The studio will be under NDA with Nintendo and the developers/designers will be under some form of NDA from their studio (not Nintendo). The only exception would be small indie developers and it's very unlikely Nintendo would provide them with a development kit until after the reveal.
NX games will be able to share information across multiple devices. I am not 100% sure what type of information this will be, but the functionality is (apparently) available to third party developers.

-On the OS
"The OS seems to be fully accessible while the game is running. I can confirm that multitasking is a thing. The devkit can interact with Android and iOS tablets and phones, as well as PCs and Macs (I specifically tested for a Mac). From what I have been able to gather- and this part is strictly speculation- I think that the console will be able to construct a full profile for you by having you just pair up with a smartphone or tablet or PC, without you having to set one up."
"You can do this with games, although obviously, you need to have the other device programmed to be able to communicate with the console. In simple terms, games with smartphone apps will be able to instantly connect with their apps on phones or tablets, without nonsensical logins and pairings and synchronizations, and what not."
It resembles Android the most, a very bloated OS, in its current form. OS reserves 6GB, seems to run mostly fine.

-On the console and its relation to its other versions and other console hardware
"I think this version of the game is definitive, at least on consoles. It looks the best, performs the best, and has extra content included."
"It is a powerful, flexible traditional console, with very minor gimmicks that don't get in the way. Very unlike Nintendo, at least the Nintendo of the last 15 years."
:Uh, I'll make this my last answer for now: if the PS4.5 is real, I think it and the NX should be reasonably matched."

Keep in mind however, his game is a port and is already out on PS4 and XBO, and he likely has not had hands on the PS4.5.

-The EXT port interests him, has no idea what it is for, Nintendo is mum on it-it reminds him of the port on the bottom of a GC-. He has never worked on Nintendo console before. 

-Disc is 25GB, dual layered discs are specified in the documentation

-Has HDMI 2.0a, USB 3.0, SD card slots and a LAN port, well his devkit has one anyway, but he doesn't think it will be on the final console.

-No backwards compatibility with Wii U or 3DS hardware

-"It is not a true hybrid. Looking into it, a lot of Geno's information seems to be false. As for whether or not this will be a flop- I can't predict that. I think it should do well. It is a well designed, good console, powerful, and Nintendo's third party outreach seems to be better this time around. I guess as long as Nintendo markets it well, it should do better than Wii U or Gamecube."

-His game has been in development since October, the first couple of months were on a software kit.

-He thinks the price will come in at $399, he thinks $250 seems unlikely, $300 maybe more likely.

-Maybe no OS level achievements? Interactive achievements are a thing, more like challenges or missions, but his dev team are implementing them as achievements.

-He says the name is 'marketable', says the Wii U was a terrible name.




Yah that's it. Like my previous post with that leaker, take with a mount fuji of salt. Keep in mind too he also says some things are wrong about the other guy's stuff. 

EDIT: Bah forgot to include link, https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoNX/comments/4cnkr8/i_am_a_developer_working_on_an_rpg_for_the_nx_ask/?sort=confidence

Since the online is on par hopefully its free.



jason1637 said:

Since the online is on par hopefully its free.

Nintendo certainly couldn't make it paid with Wii U given how far the online was compared to the other two consoles. But if NX's online is one par, who knows... we also thought that Nintendo would never make DLCs and look what happened.



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After this and other fakes and the fake rumours about NX launch and/or Wii U production stop, it looks like many people decided to make early, Ninty-themed April Fools



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