spemanig said:
Maybe... My precious confidence in the massive success of the NX is crumbling before my very eyes. |
What made you so sure the NX would have (will have?) massive success in the first place?...even if you take piece by piece of everything Nintendo has been hinting about the system and form an image,you can´t be 100% sure how the market will react to it before it´s released.
Iyasu said:
Sure, I could have phrased it clearer: Also, I never said Nintendo was bad a making controllers, I am saying that this controller (the one in the picture) is a bad idea! The previous controllers were all fine and didn't have major flaws, this one has one major flaw. I'll compare it to the Gamepad, which by the way I liked from the beginning: If they can somehow make the touch buttons exactly as good as physical buttons, or prove to me that thecontroller works precisely, then I'll be fine with it. Otherwise I am going to ignore the NX. |
Yeah I can see how some people might thnk of touch controls and automatically think the worst, but that's the thing nobody knows how it will work or if this is true or not. Seeing as how it's Nintendo, I could easily see them finding a way to make it work if this is in fact true. Either way people are jumping to conclusions though with some of the reactions here and are judging this too soon. We'll all know in 2 and a half months at E3.
- "If you have the heart of a true winner, you can always get more pissed off than some other asshole."
| Snoopy said: Gamecube made Nintendo money unlike the Wii U route which they seem to be taking. And Nintendo didn't get much third party support after a few years. People are going to buy a Nintendo System based on their first party lineup thats it. Im basing a lot of assumption based on Nintendo moves. Nintendo seems to not understand they will never be successful again if they keep this up. Gamecube worked out great for them money wise. Nintendo Wii U.... not so much.
Also it is heavily rumoured (just like the controller) the specs of NX will be on par with xbox one and ps4. What is the point if no third party developer is going to support it for long? Most people want playstation and xbox one for third party games because that is where their friends game on and the console they already bought. Not to mention Nintendo doesn't get along with third party developers. |
Except Wii U has made money as well which makes that point null and void, ironic that the non traditional routes have made them more money than the traditional route that you're calling for. Nintendo understands that this is the only route they can take to be successful it's you who doesn't understand, the traditional route suits bigger companies like MS and Sony far more than a dedicated gaming company, like in any sports the is more than one way to succeed if you can't play attacking football like Barcelona you can be strategic like Athletical Madrid, if the competition has a big advantage with one strategy you use another approach.
Third parties in the east get along fine with Nintendo and because MS have no presence there and the console market is to small to support only one platform they'd need another platform to release games on that's why NX would be X1 power. You don't get that the market is always moving to the point that developers have to change approach as well, before HD developers mainly stuck to one platform as it was cheaper and easier then development costs spike which is why the went multiplatform, these costs keep going up and the market keeps changing.
| Iyasu said: The GCN had it's issues beside getting decent (not great) 3rd party support. I have nothing to add to the second paragraph. |
Most games in that era would have fit fine on the discs, the discs are actually the most exaageraated issue, it was mainly games with loads of cg video it was and issue for. GC and the Xbox lost out simply because you can't beat a market leader utilizing a strategy that suits them as you effectively lose out to brand power, it wasn't really down to the headstart as the 360 proved.
| JGarret said: What made you so sure the NX would have (will have?) massive success in the first place?...even if you take piece by piece of everything Nintendo has been hinting about the system and form an image,you can´t be 100% sure how the market will react to it before it´s released. |
Lmao of course you can.
There has to be a way to add physical button overlays (transparent ones). Possibly they come with the handles. I just can't see how you'd play ... Smash Brothers on this controller.
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Who exactly is this controller supposed to appeal to, anyway?
The core crowd won't touch it with a ten foot pole. The casual crowd aren't interested, as the Wii U already demonstrated.
People always say "oh, Nintendo fans will get it no matter what", but many Nintendo fans who've stuck with the company for decades are expressing disgust at this design. And it's not like the Nintendo crowd alone are enough to carry a system, again, as Wii U already demonstrated.
Not to mention that the idea that Nintendo fans will put up with anything fails to take into account the countless fans they have lost over the years as a result of moves like this. Even the most dedicated fans eventually reach a point where they simply refuse to take any more crap.
Like the Wii U, the only gamers this will entice are a continually shrinking group of Nintendo diehards.
Again, all this is assuming the leak is legit.
| Soundwave said: There has to be a way to add physical button overlays (transparent ones). Possibly they come with the handles. I just can't see how you'd play ... Smash Brothers on this controller. |
I can't see how Splatoon is gonna work with those nubs. I've tried using the N3DS nub in Kid Icarus Uprising, needless to say it works poorly.
Wyrdness said:
Except Wii U has made money as well which makes that point null and void, ironic that the non traditional routes have made them more money than the traditional route that you're calling for. Nintendo understands that this is the only route they can take to be successful it's you who doesn't understand, the traditional route suits bigger companies like MS and Sony far more than a dedicated gaming company, like in any sports the is more than one way to succeed if you can't play attacking football like Barcelona you can be strategic like Athletical Madrid, if the competition has a big advantage with one strategy you use another approach. Third parties in the east get along fine with Nintendo and because MS have no presence there and the console market is to small to support only one platform they'd need another platform to release games on that's why NX would be X1 power. You don't get that the market is always moving to the point that developers have to change approach as well, before HD developers mainly stuck to one platform as it was cheaper and easier then development costs spike which is why the went multiplatform, these costs keep going up and the market keeps changing. |
The only problem is unlike the GC and the Wii U, Nintendo won't have those handheld sales to subsidize their income, since the NX is rumored to be a combo of the two markets. So, if the NX is not a success, where will Nintendo be making its money?
Personally, I don't see an underpowered Wii U 2, only now with a seemingly worse controller, being a big success. Sure, it seems the controller may have the ability to go mobile, unlike the Wii U, but its lack of physical buttons is going to be a big turn off to core fans, the type of customer that are mostly left in the console gaming market.
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