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Hiku said:
Goodnightmoon said:

And how big is that "Many people", do you know it? Are you maybe taking the 5% and making it look like is the 95%?

Majority of gamers don't go on forums and read in depth analysis of these things like we do. But even if it's a single sale, they won't throw that away for no reason.

Majority of gamers dont listen to any kind of internet rumours at all to beggin with, the people that heard this rumour is the same that has heard the NX rumours 1000 times before.



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At the very least, I'd think Nintendo would be smart enough to realize that people now definitely believe the rumor. I have to wonder how this will affect Nintendo's going forward with the WiiU end game. Oh god I hope WWHD and TPHD get price cuts *_*.

There's a very good chance we'll get decent price cuts too.



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Aerys said:
zorg1000 said:

Dont act like this is a Nintendo thing, all, major companies do it. Sony, Microsoft, Apple, Google, Samsung, they all deny rumors until they want to announce them.

But It IS a nintendo thing in the videogame industry these last years, dont act like if it wasnt, unless you can prove me otherwise, show me after 2010 ( no need to dig in very old news, i'm talking about the actual companies in their actual way of handling leak) one of the 3 constructors straightly lying about something as big as that, denying a rumor about a new model/new console/end of production before the rumor comes true few months later ( yeah because it was only 3 months later for the 3DS XL , which means it was a straight lie, they knew it was coming few months later, it wasnt just an idea, they had already planned it).

 

You'll have trouble to find me something like this.

Didnt sony just lose a class action lawsuit for "deceptive advertisement"?

Lying directly to consumers about product features is far worse than denying rumors that turn out to be true. 



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Hiku said:
Goodnightmoon said:

And how big is that "Many people", do you know it? Are you maybe taking the 5% and making it look like is the 95%?

Majority of gamers don't go on forums and read in depth analysis of these things like we do. But even if it's a single sale, they won't throw that away without a proper reason.

bigtakilla said:

But the people who will actually go out and buy the Wii U and not wait until E3 will probably not change. Star Fox Zero will not make it to NX, and that's the only reall game between now and then.

People don't only buy consoles because of what games are already out, but also because of games that will come out, or games they expect will come out in the future.

bigtakilla said:

Exactly, it's going to be so negligible it honestly isn't worth mentioning one way or another. The people who hear these rumors have also heard the other billion rumors circulating about the NX. Honestly anyone who is on the fence is going to wait till E3 anyways.

You constantly bring up 'negligable' but you have never once provided a reason for why they would purposly throw away sales. And there needs to be one for this argument to make sense. There are nine months left of the year, and they denied the 3DS XL just weeks before they announced it. Why? I mean it's just a few weeks. It's 'negligable', right? No, it's not. They're not gonna pass up even a single sale unless there's a proper reason for it.

And let's not pretend that no one would be swayed by this news, as there are plenty of comments that indicate otherwise.

Give me a reason for why Nintendo would throw away sales. How little those sales amount to according to you is not a proper argument, as even a single lost sale is meaningless without a proper reason.

There are only three until the announcement of NX. If you think anything is going to matter after that, you are simply wrong. For the Wii U it is simply a matter of picking up the console for what it has out. 



twintail said:
bigtakilla said:

Hurt sales how? Isn't essentially the Wii U out of stock in Japan and anyone who cares enough to read into this already mostly believe NX will be out this year anyways? Saying anything really only buys them three months tops if the NX IS coming out this year. There would seem to be VERY little point.

Because, believe it or not, not everyone is going to buy an NX this year and will decide on a WiiU instead.

Just as ppl are still buying PS3's and 360's now even though the PS4/ X1 are out: the platforms are still being supported, hence why they are still in production.

Saying the WiiU is stopping production has nothing to do with the fact that NX is coming out: it's about Nintendo not wanting to risk having their WiiU stock not being sold. They still have manufactured hardware, hardware which they will want to be sold else they will lose money on it. Additionally, having potential consumers drop out now, because the WiiU has no future past this year, is only going to hurt upcoming software sales, especially if said software is not being ported to NX: they have to make their money back on WiiU alone.

Just because they have the NX coming out doesn't mean that Nintendo wants WiiU sales to decline any faster. And that is essentially what confirming production end will do for the WiiU. It doesn't matter how insignificant the number might be to you... when it comes to business, every number counts.

This will not change whether they are actively producing consoles or not. FOr the average person this isn't going to matter.



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Cloudman said:
Hynad said:

He's not acting like it is a Nintendo thing. He's letting you know that the so-called saint savior or gaming, worshipped as godly under Yamauchi's watch, isn't any better than most other gaming company. Unlike what most hardcore Nintendo fans will want you to belive.

Haha, who says that about Nintendo? Usually Ninten is getting flack from people both Ninten-fans and non-fans. I think who better fits that image these days is Sony. Which hardcore Nitnen fans have you been listening to? : P

Actions and behaviour speak louder than words. 



They should build 7 million more and then cease production. Just keep doing some decent price cuts and bundling by holiday 2017 and that would likely be able to knock out the remaining stockpile.  The Wii U can die once it hits 20.  It was good while it lasted.



Hiku said:
Nem said:
I think it's absolutely crazy that some people just deny Nintendo's denial.

Even if it was true, you have no way to know if it is or isn't. It's absolutely crazy to go in this world where you believe nothing. They said it. We have to assume it's true. That's just how it is. We can't assume a lie when we got no proof whatsoever.

Crazy?

- Nikkei says Nintendo are releasing a bigger 3DS.
Nintendo denies it.
Nintendo weeks later: We are now announcing the 3DS XL.

- Nikkei says Nintendo are developing smartphone games. (Jan 2014)
Nintendo denies it, says we're not making smartphone games. (Jan 2014)
Nintendo announces they're making smartphone games. (Mar 2015)

- Nikkei says Nintendo is releasing 3DS in China. (2012 first half)
Nintendo: We currently don't have plans for that.
iQue 3DS XL is released in China. (Nov 2012)

It's not like there is no evidence to go on. They even used the exact same wording to deny the plans to release a bigger 3DS. "That report did not come from Nintendo".
There's more too. About the DS Lite I believe, also reported by Nikkei.

Nikkei's reports are more credible than Nintendo's dismissal of them when it comes to these things.
So I'm very inclined to believe Nikkei in this instance. I don't take it as 100% confirmation, but I'm fairly sure this is accurate based on Nintendo's history with denying correct information from Nikkei.

You can't draw a comparison with this and something else. Because you dont know if its true or not. What if this time its true? Has that occured to you?

How many times has Nintendo not lied? Have you kept track of those? I swear, everyone goes a little bonkers when it comes to Nintendo.



Nikkei has been a rock solid source in the past, I go with their word. They were right about Seaman 3DS too.



Hiku said:
bigtakilla said:

There are only three until the announcement of NX. If you think anything is going to matter after that, you are simply wrong. For the Wii U it is simply a matter of picking up the console for what it has out. 

Assuming they announce the release date of the NX at E3, which I assume they will, then yes you're right. So I probably should have said 3 months rather than 9. That doesn't change my point or my question though. Why would they throw away sales during a 3 month period for no reason? Even if it's negligable, there needs to be a reason for doing that. Otherwise they will not, and will act just like they did when Nikkei reported the 3DS XL.
I get that there are an increasing amount of people who now believe NX will come out in 2016. But there are people in Nintendo and other companie's PR division who's very job it is to minimize things like this as much as possible until it's time to make an announcement.

Also, Nintendo wouldn't have responded to this unlesss they thought the negative ramifications are worth trying to avoid.

Because it's three months of seemingly nothing. Star Fox fans are still going to get a Wii U for Star Fox Zero (which let's be realistic will be almost no one), and then E3 time. They honestly had like absolutely 0 to gain from responding the way they did, that's the reality.