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jonager said:
ben affleck was acting in it, what did you expect?

Hehehe

 

OT: Just with the name you can infer how "good" was this.



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JRPGfan said:
Lawlight said:

I think you're misinterpreting what the RT score is. 55% does not mean a movie is bad. Think of a movie that has a score of 50%. Half of the people liked it and the other half didn't. Does that mean that the movie was good or bad?

I watched it... it was a bad movie (imo).

You didn't answer my question.



mountaindewslave said:
Turkish said:

Sometimes RT scores don't reflect how much a movie I liked.

Take SW episode 7 for example, it's just a remake, prettier, new names, that's all, very safe movie by the numbers, yet it has like 90%.

Man of Steel has a 56% btw, and I enjoyed it a lot.

but SW episode 7 is actually a quite GOOD film. Its enjoyable, even if it is a rehash. its not bad. Its not poorly paced. it doesn't try to cram too much into one film.

bear in mind that the tomatometer simple gauges whether or not critics LIKED a film. so if they rated it 55% or 60% I believe that would practically be considerined a 'positive' tomato. The point being that a film can have census rating of like 6.0 and still be considering 90% positive just because a ton of critics like the movie a bit more than they disliked it.

 

SW episode 7 would be a poor thing to compare with Man of Steel though. I like Man of Steel but objectively speaking its certainly not a great superhero movie, especially next to things like Guardians of the Galaxy or the first Iron Man (or the Batman films for that matter, the Keaton one OR the Nolan ones)

Episode 7 was garbage and I think people are starting to catch on to the reality that it is not as good as they thought it was.



irstupid said:
EricFabian said:
Marvel's films got better reviwes because they don't pretend to be other thing than a SuperHero movie, at least is that what I think.


But I have to agree with Watchmen case

It baffles me how critics seem to always give them such good ratings. You would think they would bash them for being so shallow. Hell the most recent Ant Man was a Iron Man 1 clone with tacked on super offensive stereotypes.  

The hell? How is Ant-Man, Iron Man 1. Tony had no mentor. Nor is Scott a prick towards people. He just wanted to not be a criminal. Prove to his former family he doesn't suck ass. Stark is a complete 360 of Lang. The only simliarlies is the men like to be funny, and the bad guys stole the tech. Tons of hero movies/shows do this. Spider-Man, Hulk, Justice League, Batman, Iron Man, Wonder Woman. Striker alone rips off powers. And makes copies of copies. To deal with "failed (Logan)" attempts.

Lawlight said:
V-r0cK said:

They're having a Justice League movie out soon with no Green Lantern in it.  If missing a key character for the Justice League doesn't sound rushed to you then I don't know what is.  And you can't say it's all part of their plan because that's just plain stupid.  

...Ok fine, either they're rushing it or just stupid.

The Avengers came without some key characters like Ant Man, who had a movie in production before Iron Man. Do you really think Marvel had one plan and stuck to it? Spider-Man got added to Civil War in the last 2 weeks of shooting. That's not rushing?

That gets a pass. Sony is the anvil that gets in the way. If Spider-Man was owned by Marvel 100%. He would of been in Civil War from the start.

Now Ant-Man, if you follow the movie stories. Hank quit prior to the Ant-Man film. So a Ant-Man wouldn't be in Avengers 1. He was looking for someone during Avengers 2. And was trying to block his tech from being persued for almost 20 years. Yeah, this breaks the Avengers comic book starting characters. But the movies did give a internal explination. Janet was dead 20 years before Avengers 1. So she couldn't be in it, for that reason too. Ant-Man's production was never smooth. So obiously the movie had script and other issues. Movies don't stay in limbo for years, for no reason.



Lawlight said:
V-r0cK said:

They're having a Justice League movie out soon with no Green Lantern in it.  If missing a key character for the Justice League doesn't sound rushed to you then I don't know what is.  And you can't say it's all part of their plan because that's just plain stupid.  

...Ok fine, either they're rushing it or just stupid.

The Avengers came without some key characters like Ant Man, who had a movie in production before Iron Man. Do you really think Marvel had one plan and stuck to it? Spider-Man got added to Civil War in the last 2 weeks of shooting. That's not rushing?

While I do agree with you that the Avengers didn't use the full original cast but we clearly see they purposely wanted to change it slightly by titling the first Captain America movie 'The first avenger' when clearly he wasn't.  I was a bit disappointed they didn't keep the origin of Ultron tie in with Ant Man.  Spider-man isn't even a staple for the Avengers and wasn't added into the group until the 90s?  And yes that was rushing, but that's because of licensing issues.

But that aside, no comic group is more iconic and memorable than the Justice League in which Green Lantern has always been a staple in the group. So to not have Green Lantern in the Justice League movie is highly disappointing.  The only logic I can think of is that they're rushing it.  I can't see why they can't take the time to find a Green Lantern unless they're being rushed.  Not like they have licensing issues unlike Marvel/Sony/Fox.

Honestly, is everybody perfectly cool with Justice League not having Green Lantern? I just think that's completely wrong.



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archer9234 said:
Lawlight said:

The Avengers came without some key characters like Ant Man, who had a movie in production before Iron Man. Do you really think Marvel had one plan and stuck to it? Spider-Man got added to Civil War in the last 2 weeks of shooting. That's not rushing?

That gets a pass. Sony is the anvil that gets in the way. If Spider-Man was owned by Marvel 100%. He would of been in Civil War from the start.

Now Ant-Man, if you follow the movie stories. Hank quit prior to the Ant-Man film. So a Ant-Man wouldn't be in Avengers 1. He was looking for someone during Avengers 2. And was trying to block his tech from being persued for almost 20 years. Yeah, this breaks the Avengers comic book starting characters. But the movies did give a internal explination. Janet was dead 20 years before Avengers 1. So she couldn't be in it, for that reason too. Ant-Man's production was never smooth. So obiously the movie had script and other issues. Movies don't stay in limbo for years, for no reason.

Well that's the thing, Marvel can't make their movies all it can be because of licencing.  Heck I find Wolverine would make a better addition in the Avengers than Spider-man since Wolverine and Captain America have a history.  For the sake of Civil War story Spider-man is a nice add, but Spidey and Wolverine joined the Avengers late.

Green Lantern is a founding member of Justice League and there's no licencing issues with DC movies, so what's stopping them from doing just doing it right from the start?



V-r0cK said:

Honestly, is everybody perfectly cool with Justice League not having Green Lantern? I just think that's completely wrong.

There are tiers to a justice league, but to me the core six are Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, The Flash, and Aquaman.

Hawkman, Martian Manhunter, Cyborg, are ones like to see, but don't consider essential.



Augen said:
V-r0cK said:

Honestly, is everybody perfectly cool with Justice League not having Green Lantern? I just think that's completely wrong.

There are tiers to a justice league, but to me the core six are Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, The Flash, and Aquaman.

Hawkman, Martian Manhunter, Cyborg, are ones like to see, but don't consider essential.

Precisely, Green Lantern is just a staple to Justice League that there shouldn't be any good reason to not have him in the upcoming JL movie.  



The bigger question would be which one though. Obvious choice if they stick to the core comic. But I don't care for Kyle or Hal. And would prefer John. My only theory why GL is missing. Is that they have too many new people to introduce. And they were forced to cut someone. That's all I can really thing of. Unless they're hiding something. Like Ant-Man. Why he can't be there.



archer9234 said:

The bigger question would be which one though. Obvious choice if they stick to the core comic. But I don't care for Kyle or Hal. And would prefer John. My only theory why GL is missing. Is that they have too many new people to introduce. And they were forced to cut someone. That's all I can really thing of. Unless they're hiding something. Like Ant-Man. Why he can't be there.

The main reason he's probably missing is because the last GL movie with Ryan Reynolds was a critical and commercial failure. If the last movie had done good, GL would most likely be part of the JL.