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Nem said:
Nah... i'm completely not interesting in strapping a monitor in front of my eyes. It would have to offer a VR experience of the Holo deck or .hack or sword art online for me to care. That is not the case so, i prefer to play my games on my TV.

Just out of curiosity,  have you tried it?  (I´m not trying to be smartass or anything. I'm really curious).



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Nuvendil said:

Soooo at the risk of derailing the thread...

For those who say they are sold on VR the concept but are unwilling to pay the price for it, what would you think of a VR arcade? I've discussed this possible business idea a bit and I think it has real potential. Rather than buy VR, this arcade would have a two or three sets of booths, each one playing a different game. I think cockpit games would be the best place to start. So let's say Hawken, EVE Valkyrie, that weird mech basketball type game Sony showed were three of the options. Obviously would be on rotation. Also there would be a few cheaper booths that had more VR experience demonstration type games. So like one might let you tour around a detailed fantasy city or a real world city. Or if No Man's Sky got VR support you would be able to wonder about in that.

Would you be willing to pay to use such a both for, say, 30 mins or an hour at a time? Would this interest you as an alternative to acquiring a VR headset? How much would you be willing to pay? A price range of $5 to $15 an hour was a price range one guy suggested to me (the booths are obviously not just chairs, they would contain quality controller options, comfortable seating, obviously a headset, speakers, and perhaps other bells and whistles).

Not sure where you live but here in Euroland you wouldn't be able to do that for more than a matter of days if you were just using store bought Playstation VR setups, keep in mind that the license which comes with games is for one person, you are not allowed to rent or otherwise profit from (using them in an arcade scenario) those games, you would need to get Sony to agree to letting you use the games in an arcade setup and they simply never would, not outside of a demo booth setup to show off their products but again, not to profit from them.



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From this article... and common sense it is very clear that Sony and anyone else getting into the VR fray need to set up Demos of this product and make it available to customers to see just how ground breaking this is, and that would be costly, if you set up a demo unit for this in a store it is far harder to bolt into a demo unit than say the controllers which are chained to the X1 and PS4 booths which exist, theft and damage to the headsets would mean pretty much having to hire staff to monitor the booths all the time and provide a sick bucket incase anyone suffered badly from VR motion sickness (I'm sure gamestop would be powering the booth off pretty fast if it was just left in a corner to fill an area of their store with vomit and sick customers).

VR has the same issues that the 3DS had, trying to convince people that the games for it look better when you're playing it than they do in magazines or youtube videos but.... the 3DS was only moderately successful at doing that, and Nintendo had the advantage of easily being able to set up demo systems in stores all over the globe, like I said above, I don't see PSVR appearing in local game shops as much as other systems, and that is going to hurt the sales of it far greater than if a PS4/X1 system isn't being demo'd.



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Ganoncrotch said:
Nuvendil said:

Soooo at the risk of derailing the thread...

For those who say they are sold on VR the concept but are unwilling to pay the price for it, what would you think of a VR arcade? I've discussed this possible business idea a bit and I think it has real potential. Rather than buy VR, this arcade would have a two or three sets of booths, each one playing a different game. I think cockpit games would be the best place to start. So let's say Hawken, EVE Valkyrie, that weird mech basketball type game Sony showed were three of the options. Obviously would be on rotation. Also there would be a few cheaper booths that had more VR experience demonstration type games. So like one might let you tour around a detailed fantasy city or a real world city. Or if No Man's Sky got VR support you would be able to wonder about in that.

Would you be willing to pay to use such a both for, say, 30 mins or an hour at a time? Would this interest you as an alternative to acquiring a VR headset? How much would you be willing to pay? A price range of $5 to $15 an hour was a price range one guy suggested to me (the booths are obviously not just chairs, they would contain quality controller options, comfortable seating, obviously a headset, speakers, and perhaps other bells and whistles).

Not sure where you live but here in Euroland you wouldn't be able to do that for more than a matter of days if you were just using store bought Playstation VR setups, keep in mind that the license which comes with games is for one person, you are not allowed to rent or otherwise profit from (using them in an arcade scenario) those games, you would need to get Sony to agree to letting you use the games in an arcade setup and they simply never would, not outside of a demo booth setup to show off their products but again, not to profit from them.

Obviously there are legal issues that would have to be worked out.  I was more interested in seeing if people would be interested in such a setup.  And I think one of the three, be it Sony, Valve, or Oculus, would be willing to work with such a project.  It would only help further promote VR and give a lot of exposure to whatever VR headset was specifically being used.



Hynad said:

Most gamers didn't complain that they looked stupid. They complained that the waggling on most Wii games was gimmick and unnecessary. A games that did motion controls well well, Wii Sports and Metroid Prime Trilogy for examples, were praised for their controls and rightly so.

In the case of VR, to have better immersion and feel like you're actually in that VR world, there has to be motion controls. Something that is simply not required for traditional games like Super Mario Galaxy and Twilight Princess, which had motion controls that felt forced and tacked on...

still makes gamers hypocritical though either way



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PwerlvlAmy said:
Hynad said:

Most gamers didn't complain that they looked stupid. They complained that the waggling on most Wii games was gimmick and unnecessary. A games that did motion controls well well, Wii Sports and Metroid Prime Trilogy for examples, were praised for their controls and rightly so.

In the case of VR, to have better immersion and feel like you're actually in that VR world, there has to be motion controls. Something that is simply not required for traditional games like Super Mario Galaxy and Twilight Princess, which had motion controls that felt forced and tacked on...

still makes gamers hypocritical though either way

Wouldn't be the first time, and it's unlikely to be the last time.



mornelithe said:
PwerlvlAmy said:

still makes gamers hypocritical though either way

Wouldn't be the first time, and it's unlikely to be the last time.

no doubt, im guilty as well lol



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PwerlvlAmy said:
mornelithe said:

Wouldn't be the first time, and it's unlikely to be the last time.

no doubt, im guilty as well lol

I think we all are, from time to time.   Would be nice if we could work together on the things that are important to gaming though, rather than retreating to our 'tribes' so-to-speak.



My apathy has less to do with the concept and more to do with that I don't like the implications for society that comes with VR. Its an isolating experience. Humans are social. I don't see any good out of people secluding themselves under a headset, especially since mobile phones & the internet are already having a massive impact on the way we socialize, and not necessarily for the better.

Also Kapi mentioned previously that it prevents you from multi-tasking and just being aware of what's going on around you, which I think are pretty major aspects that would be either inconvenient or even harmful to people using it.