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Mr Puggsly on 19 May 2016
DonFerrari said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Outdated? Its still gonna be a great game this holiday and frankly its not the same experience as Uncharted.

You know what's funny, we see people boasting about how great Tomb Raider DE did on PS4 even though that was a remaster of 7th gen game. We also see people saying RotTR won't do great because its a year late.

 

Based on trends, I think RotTR is gonna do fine on PS4. In fact, I'm gonna make another thread...

First 10 Weeks Sales: SFV (PS4) -VS- RotTR (PS4)

You say with a straight face that the one year gap won't affect the sales and a portion of the users won't buy it full price because they will consider it a year old product? For real?

Please don't put words in my mouth to make an argument.



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Mr Puggsly on 19 May 2016
Kerotan said:

Exactly,  plus I'll be buying battlefield 1 along with its premium and the new legacy cod edition for cod4. There is no room in my schedule this year but last year with uncharted 4 delayed there was.  It's an inferior game too so that doesn't help.  

They messed up so bad. I'll either get it for $10 on sale in a few years or on ps plus like I did with tomb raider 2013

You now what's funny, people thought RotTR bombed at first launching on the same day as Fallout 4 and near so many other major titles. But guess what happened? It sold well over time and had a strong first 10 weeks, sold great on PC as well in spite of being late.

Meanwhile a game like SFV had a great opening and bad legs. Also did poor on PC.



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Kerotan on 19 May 2016
Mr Puggsly said:
Kerotan said:

Exactly,  plus I'll be buying battlefield 1 along with its premium and the new legacy cod edition for cod4. There is no room in my schedule this year but last year with uncharted 4 delayed there was.  It's an inferior game too so that doesn't help.  

They messed up so bad. I'll either get it for $10 on sale in a few years or on ps plus like I did with tomb raider 2013

You now what's funny, people thought RotTR bombed at first launching on the same day as Fallout 4 and near so many other major titles. But guess what happened? It sold well over time and had a strong first 10 weeks, sold great on PC as well in spite of being late.

Meanwhile a game like SFV had a great opening and bad legs. Also did poor on PC.

So that's down to one game being good and the other being bad.  Which proves my point,  it's nothing to do with either being exclusive.  

 



Mr Puggsly on 19 May 2016
Kerotan said:
Mr Puggsly said:

You now what's funny, people thought RotTR bombed at first launching on the same day as Fallout 4 and near so many other major titles. But guess what happened? It sold well over time and had a strong first 10 weeks, sold great on PC as well in spite of being late.

Meanwhile a game like SFV had a great opening and bad legs. Also did poor on PC.

So that's down to one game being good and the other being bad.  Which proves my point,  it's nothing to do with either being exclusive.  

 

No, you weren't making that point at all or ever.

Anyhow, nobody is saying SFV is bad per se. If anything, maybe a bad deal for $60 for so little content.



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Kerotan on 19 May 2016
Mr Puggsly said:
Kerotan said:

So that's down to one game being good and the other being bad.  Which proves my point,  it's nothing to do with either being exclusive.  

 

No, you weren't making that point at all or ever.

Anyhow, nobody is saying SFV is bad per se. If anything, maybe a bad deal for $60 for so little content.

I was making the point that the tomb raider deal was worse.  And TR selling better on X1 than SFV on ps4 proves it.  Because you're talking about a bigger potential sales.  I'll make it very simple for you.  

 

SFV sells bad on the beasts that are pc and ps4: 

Definitely wouldn't have sold much on X1. Not a lot of lost sales.  

 

TR: sells decent on X1. Would have done at least double (possibly x2.5 if we go by Tomb raider 2013) on ps4. 

 

Basically a shit load of sales at $60. Now they'll be lucky to get half of that and they won't be at $60. 

End result,  SE lose a lot more sales than capcom lost with sfv. 



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LudicrousSpeed on 19 May 2016
Swordmasterman said:
Naufraguito said:

I don't see any reason why TR couldn't archieve at the very least another million on PS4,

When it could have achieved 4-5 Millions Last Year.

It wouldn't have sold 4-5 million last year on PS4 LOL. It's not CoD or Fallout.

And if you truly believe there are that many Tomb Raider fans who would have bought it last year, there's no reason to assume that this year with more consoles in the wild that it wouldn't sell that. Or even HALF of that 5 million would be great sales.

Again, don't confuse Internet bitterness and bickering with what the average consumer buys. If the Internet were any indication, CoD would have died years ago.



Mr Puggsly on 19 May 2016
Kerotan said:
Mr Puggsly said:

No, you weren't making that point at all or ever.

Anyhow, nobody is saying SFV is bad per se. If anything, maybe a bad deal for $60 for so little content.

I was making the point that the tomb raider deal was worse.  And TR selling better on X1 than SFV on ps4 proves it.  Because you're talking about a bigger potential sales.  I'll make it very simple for you.  

SFV sells bad on the beasts that are pc and ps4: 

Definitely wouldn't have sold much on X1. Not a lot of lost sales.  

TR: sells decent on X1. Would have done at least double (possibly x2.5 if we go by Tomb raider 2013) on ps4. 

Basically a shit load of sales at $60. Now they'll be lucky to get half of that and they won't be at $60. 

End result,  SE lose a lot more sales than capcom lost with sfv. 

You know what I just realized? You only feel the SFV deal is better because its been a failure thus far.

If SFV was at 2-3 million sales right now on PS4, your argument would have to be a lot of potential sales were lost on X1. Atleast if you were consistent.

Hence, RotTR is the bad deal in your eyes because people actually want it.



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Kerotan on 19 May 2016
Mr Puggsly said:
Kerotan said:

I was making the point that the tomb raider deal was worse.  And TR selling better on X1 than SFV on ps4 proves it.  Because you're talking about a bigger potential sales.  I'll make it very simple for you.  

SFV sells bad on the beasts that are pc and ps4: 

Definitely wouldn't have sold much on X1. Not a lot of lost sales.  

TR: sells decent on X1. Would have done at least double (possibly x2.5 if we go by Tomb raider 2013) on ps4. 

Basically a shit load of sales at $60. Now they'll be lucky to get half of that and they won't be at $60. 

End result,  SE lose a lot more sales than capcom lost with sfv. 

You know what I just realized? You only feel the SFV deal is better because its been a failure thus far.

If SFV was at 2-3 million sales right now on PS4, your argument would have to be a lot of potential sales were lost on X1. Atleast if you were consistent.

Hence, RotTR is the bad deal in your eyes because people actually want it.

Bingo!!! You finally realised it.  Now I can move on.  God it took a long time but I finally made you see it my way :)



Swordmasterman on 19 May 2016
LudicrousSpeed said:
Swordmasterman said:

When it could have achieved 4-5 Millions Last Year.

It wouldn't have sold 4-5 million last year on PS4 LOL. It's not CoD or Fallout.

And if you truly believe there are that many Tomb Raider fans who would have bought it last year, there's no reason to assume that this year with more consoles in the wild that it wouldn't sell that. Or even HALF of that 5 million would be great sales.

Again, don't confuse Internet bitterness and bickering with what the average consumer buys. If the Internet were any indication, CoD would have died years ago.

I Gave a random number just for Example, it could have sold 80+ Millions and now will sell 1-2 Millions but we will never know because the first case will never happen.



Mr Puggsly on 19 May 2016
Kerotan said:
Mr Puggsly said:

You know what I just realized? You only feel the SFV deal is better because its been a failure thus far.

If SFV was at 2-3 million sales right now on PS4, your argument would have to be a lot of potential sales were lost on X1. Atleast if you were consistent.

Hence, RotTR is the bad deal in your eyes because people actually want it.

Bingo!!! You finally realised it.  Now I can move on.  God it took a long time but I finally made you see it my way :)

Alright, well I'm sure Sony and MS's focus will now be buying exclusives people don't want. It makes perfect sense!



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