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Most people will either say Leave or stay simply, but I think that the US should, (I'm Canadian...) should slowly pull out, and Try to rebuild the economy of Iraq more then they are now. Try to make a deal with the Taliban, it's the only way to stop some of bloodshed. As they leave, get on the good side of most of the groups there, who currently hate the USA, and only leave a small amount of soldiers there for a longer period of time...

If things don't work out... I don't know... But I relish the thought of another bombing. (In case you didn't know the CN tower in Toronto was targeted by a small group last year, so a Canadian Bombing could be next...



 

 

 

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Most people will either say Leave or stay simply, but I think that the US should, (I'm Canadian...) should slowly pull out, and Try to rebuild the economy of Iraq more then they are now. Try to make a deal with the Taliban, it's the only way to stop some of bloodshed. As they leave, get on the good side of most of the groups there, who currently hate the USA, and only leave a small amount of soldiers there for a longer period of time...

If things don't work out... I don't know... But I relish the thought of another bombing. (In case you didn't know the CN tower in Toronto was targeted by a small group last year, so a Canadian Bombing could be next...

Er....the Taliban is in Afgahnistan....

Whoops. 



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The reason why forces need to stay is to ensure stability. Stability in governement and the stability of the day to day lives of the Iraqi people.

Don't take this as being pro-Hussein regime in any way, but at the time the country was relatively stable. The stability was achieved through brutallity and oppression. Now a new era must be ushered in. One where democracy and humain rights are the corner stones of the stability.

The foundation on which those corner stones lay are shaky. Unfortunately, only a military presence can solidify that foundation. I just wish the miltary presence was better backed by the United Nations.



Partition and leave! 

The area which makes up Iraq was peaceful for centuries under the Ottoman Empire and these three areas have only been held together by force since.

 



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Well something had to be done and now we have to stay until Irag is stable enough to defend and control their own country.



We've made a rather large mess of things, and leaving now would cause a huge loss of life and further instability. We've got to see this through to the bitter end, even if you disagree with our reasons for being there in the first place.



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We're stuck there until the end of time- if we pull out, the Middle East goes from cracked to entirely shattered. Stability will be destroyed.

It's too bad we had to get in this situation. Sure, Saddam Hussein was a horrible, crazed man, but at least he provided stability. Our invasion messed up the region even more, and made more terrorists.




Gotta stay until the government gets stable. Not perfect... but stable.

Otherwise the best case scenario is that there is a giant civil war that makes the last 5 years look a picnic.

Worst case scenario, nearly every country in the middle east funds "their" side's rebels leading to a giant catastrophe that fuels bad blood in the region between the countries that might even start another war if Iran's side loses and they decide to just outright invade... or some other country makes a similar move.

The funny thing is the US took out Sadam Hussein just to put in a Pro-Iran government... despite Iran being the US's biggest problem in the region... before the US even invaded Iraq.

Basically bush cracked a few holes in the dike. Then stuck his fingers in the holes and basically didn't say anything.

The next president's choices will be to either do the same and hope something changes, do something similar while shouting for help... or just remove the fingers from the dike and let the whole thing break down and flood us all.

Sadly so far the presidential candidates seem to be going for options 1 and 3.

At least 1 buys you time though.

A lot of the instability is just because Iran knows they can use it to attack out troops, or it seems that way.  Which is kinda short sided on their part since the current Iraqi government is really more Pro Iran then US...

Not sure if they just think our army will never leave or they are planning for a situation where they fund a war to cause disaster and then swoop in and pick up the pieces hanging their former allies out to dry. 



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We're stuck there until the end of time- if we pull out, the Middle East goes from cracked to entirely shattered. Stability will be destroyed.

It's too bad we had to get in this situation. Sure, Saddam Hussein was a horrible, crazed man, but at least he provided stability. Our invasion messed up the region even more, and made more terrorists.

 Sadam Hussein was killing hundreds of people in Irag and was attacking the U.S. you want them to just lay-off and let themselves get bombed?