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Forums - Nintendo - More Fire Emblem Fates Censorship! Bikini Outfits Removed

RolStoppable said:

The problematic thing in Fire Emblem Fates isn't so much that there are underage girls in bikinis, it's that the player has control over the camera to look at the characters from all sides and angles. That's where things go from normal into the range of pedophilia, just like in the beach example above. That's why Nintendo takes a "better safe than sorry" approach.

 

If the problem lies on the camera, then simply remove the ability to look at the characters from all sides and angles. It's not that hard.



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RolStoppable said:
Wright said:

If the problem lies on the camera, then simply remove the ability to look at the characters from all sides and angles. It's not that hard.

But in that case we would still be looking at censorship.

 

But you're okay with that.



RolStoppable said:
Ajax said:
They have taken out more "japanese" content from this game. Maybe EA or Rockstar can make the next Fire Emblem installment.

It's great that MGSV didn't get censored outside of Japan. A major character in the game and ally runs around in the game in a bikini sniping people. It seems many people here would have agreed if Sony had demanded of Konami to change her outfit.

You are missing the point. The woman in MGS5 is an adult. That's the same reason why Bayonetta and Bayonetta 2 weren't censored by Nintendo.

By the way, GTA: San Andreas was called back from stores and shipped back as a censored game, so Rockstar isn't exactly a good example of a censorship-free content creator.

You know, that was a redicules issue. Shows how peoples looks towards sexual content changes. Because in GTA 5. You can have the ladies do lap dances and ride all over the characters crotches. And Trevor is fucking a woman, at the start of his story. And all the Hot coffee mod did, was enabled clothed sex poistions. Tamer than anything GTA 5 has done. Did anyone get those cutscenes removed, no. That was just 10 years later.

A better censorship free example is Saints Row. Even the Aus version wasn't really censored. They just disallowed the dumb dildo gun to be sold there. I just gifted the gun to my friend. And the game gave two shits.

 

 



Wright said:

I still don't understand why you guys keep defending the outfit removal. More content is always good, no matter how little, absurd or dumb. Removing and not adding anything in exchange sucks.

Yes it sucks! But we need to also consider WHAT IS BEING REMOVED. 

If people are not buying this game because of the things that have been removed (Petting, Clothing options, Dual Audio) then obviously they are looking for the wrong game with wrong reasons.

I can accept people not buying the game beacuse of its "Price". Even though 1 version will probably have a better story and characters available than Awakening. 



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kooltrex said:
I mean I really dont care about what was removed cause I got hentai for that as long as the game is good thats what I care about I remember how the old FE games on the GBA were amazing.

THANKYOU! It feels like the people Not Buying the game because of the stuff that has been removed, Have never played Awakening or past FE games. They should know how awesome Awakening was even without those SEXUAL FANSERVICE. Oh Well, they are missing out on a great game! 

 

Volterra_90 said:
Zeroroute said:

Wanting a full product doesn't make you a pervert. If they're gonna keep cutting content they might as well launch the game at $30 or $35 instead. Oh wait this is Nintendo we're talking about

Yeah, bikinis in FE costs 5/10$. That's right. If you're willing to pay that, I'd sincerely think about it. You could have all the bikinis you want.

"Cut content". Holy shit.

Nintendo should just make a DLC for this content. Or Even Better! An Amiibo which unlocks all these content!!! = $$$$$$$$ 

 

 

 

 

 



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I just don't get the anger about this stuff. Nintendo do so many things that are legitimately wrong, but people get upset because they localise their game (noting that localisation includes adhering to cultural norms of a region).



I don't care.



RolStoppable said:
MikeRox said:

Are you referring to the removal of locked hot coffee content? It wasn't available without hacks in any release so removing locked content was purely about age rating. Not changing something for a different audience.

Yes, that's what I am refering to. Removing content is censorship. Getting a different age rating is a change made to sell to a different audience.

Mind you, I have no problem with this content being removed. It was the correct decision. But the people who are up in arms in this thread would condemn Rockstar for censorship as any form of censorship is bad and more content is always better.

Is it censorship if it was already locked out though? It was stuff that was never meant to be accessible in the final release. Pretty much the same as those hidden temples on wind waker that were unlocked via the action replay.

 

This example is content being removed that was available in the original full release of the game in another territory.



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RolStoppable said:
MikeRox said:

Is it censorship if it was already locked out though? It was stuff that was never meant to be accessible in the final release. Pretty much the same as those hidden temples on wind waker that were unlocked via the action replay.

 

This example is content being removed that was available in the original full release of the game in another territory.

Content that is made and then is inaccessible, that's censorship by the definition that is used in these discussions. GTA: San Andreas would be double censorship because first the content on the disc was only accessible via hacks, then said content got removed from the disc altogether.

However, that "double censorship" was never available legitimately in any release of the game. Whereas in this instance it was, that in itself is the difference.

Failed concepts/ideas aren't censorship, that is just creative process, Rockstar North chose not to go in that direction. The fact that the ESRB then decided AO was needed because of locked off content being unlocked wasn't "double censorship". It wasn't meant to be accessible in the final product in the first place.

In this instance, the full game was released in Japan, then the Western branch decided that might not go down as well, and so the finished product has been "censored" for a specific audience.

If Hot Coffee was in the Japanese release of GTA but not the others, that would also be censorship. As it stands, it's actually artistic choice of the developer. It's only censorship when it's been removed, having supposed to have been there in the first place.



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Jranation said:

Nintendo should just make a DLC for this content. Or Even Better! An Amiibo which unlocks all these content!!! = $$$$$$$$ 

XDDDDD. That would be obviously ridiculous, but seeing how people really care about bikinis, why not take advantage of this? Take your bikinis, for fuck sake. If their absence is supposed to make the game cheaper like 5/10 bucks (how somebody can think this is beyond my imagination...).

I see some people jump off the wagon when GTA was in the ecuation. How predictable.