I at no point said that homosexuals CHOOSE to be gay, just as I didn't CHOOSE to become sexually attracted (all be it mildly) to men. I'm just saying that being gay or not being gay is not 100% Reliant on particular genetics. ANY baby born can grow into a gay man/woman. Genetics may have a baring on the likelyhood of that happening but they are not the be all and end all.

You don't choose for these feelings or preferences to develop and you can't just get rid of them when they do. It isn't a choice but environmental and cultural factors DO have a bearing.

As for your last comment I would again argue that everyone has the capability of becoming bisexual, I think someone LOSING sexual attraction to a gender is very unlikely if not impossible, however GAINING a sexual attraction to a gender I definitely believe is possible.

^ this. Probably born "bi" but society made him dislike the idea of males, but overtime hes grown to be more accepting of things.

Stuff like that obviously happends.

But your attraction isnt dictated by enviroment your born into, your born likeing either male or female forms.

Its a matter of genetics.

Are you saying Pacquiao didn't go far enough? Maybe worse than dirt?

Seriously though, Pacquiao is clearly not fond of gays. You can't blame Nike, he can't say stuff like that and expect support from major companies.

Its a physical thing though.

They can meassure how your brain reacts to certain things (stimuli) and in gay people, its the reverse of whats normal (strait people reactions).

Chances are very high (like 99%) that its because your born that way.

Nothing can really change that, you can learn to live without ever haveing being sexually attracted to the one your liveing with though.

If you live in the closet so to speak.

Which is basically what those bible thumpers do, when they try to teach gay people to be strait (its basically just learn to hate yourself).

"It isn't a choice but environmental and cultural factors DO have a bearing."

Maybe like 1% bearing :p

Its basically all physical, theres differnces in the brain, of gay people that make them the way they are.

Enviroments dont turn people gay, or normal parents & normal enviroments wouldnt produce so many homosexuals.

Also if its a enviromental thing, how do you explain that in nature (animals) they have about the same rate of homosexuality that humans do?

Sometimes i can't help in reading these misleading researches by scientists who wants to find ways to pepertuate homosexual agenda. One day they would also convice us that people were born with mutations to have sexual attraction for animals and the gullible once would believe because they say so. Traditions have defined us throughout the existence of humanity and through heterosexuality which now another direction is being defined.

Wasn't like 5 hundreds already?

Huh? I meant that as a reply for Pacquiao's "worse than animals" comment, considering what I said.

Wouldn't surprise me, yeah.

No is not, this has not being proven by science at all, so unless you have an empirical proof of what you are saying is not genetic. You dont choose to be gay, but you are not determined by genetics, there are tons of other variables.

1) thats kinda offensive.

2) Its not traditions, there have always been a % of the population that where homosexual. Its not a "now" or "new" direction.

back in the day there where probably homosexual gave men as well. Just like with animals, there are homosexual animals.

Its just all mother nature, its how your genes define you, and your brain developes (inpart due to your genes).

Basically your born that way.

Yeah, I got what you were saying. Animals can be gay as well, or atleast do gay stuff.

Which make that comparison pointless.