JWeinCom said:
Dulfite said:
Neither seems likely. Something coming from nothing, then that something exploding into an infinite amount of other somethings, and then out of all those ridiculous amount of somethings some of them form into massive objects that light up the universe, and then more random somethings come together to form smaller objects, and then out of that something, something somehow forms a breathable atmosphere, and then on that object that came from something that came from nothing came random organisms, and then those random organisms decide to evolve into other random things for no random purpose, and then eventually apes come into being and then they randomly evolve into humans.
It doesn't make any sense that anything exists at all.
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If you think evolution is a random process, then you don't understand it. Read up on it, and maybe you'll have a better understanding of how likely or unlikely it is.
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But what caused it? Why did it start? If it's there, what made it be there? What determined it? Nothing determined it? If nothing determined it, then nothing should exist at all. If something determined it to be there, then things make sense. But then what can that something possibly be? Nature? But that's just a made up term to pretty much describe chaos or the lack of something controlling. Nature doesn't exist. The only way nature could exist is if the rules that it creates (gravity, energy speed up/slow down, matter vs. anti matter, etc.) have to have been determined by something with intelligence. If there is no something with intelligence, then how is their rules to nature? You can't say evolution is logical so of course it's natural, because in what way is it logical if there is no supreme thing to hold it up to? What even determines logic?
Whatever people believe started evolution, what start that? And I've heard/read so many differnet theories, including the one on the universe expanding/contracting infinetely, but I say again to that and to all other theories as to why things are the way they are, what caused them in the first place if there isn't God? Seriously, I want a serious response to this. Every other time people just blow past that question because they either don't know or they don't want to answer.