I don't have a PS4, so.. maybe? xD
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I don't have a PS4, so.. maybe? xD
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kowenicki said: I'd have to question the honesty and sanity of a yes response to this. Ps. Where is the real (only) profit in gaming? Hardware or software? |
I guess that would make me one of the insane people... xD
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Cloudman said:
I guess that would make me one of the insane people... xD |
I know its really a "both" answer.
You can sell cheaper hardware for higher price to profit, or you gain more install base which means you profit off of the base for buying software or content your company provides.
Either from deals you make to profit share, or license agreements, or hosting service's or advertising profits from your own ad agencies income.
One part may post more profit, but you may still profit from all the ways listed.
Trying to have a "framed" argument as this
Where is the real (only) profit in gaming? Hardware or software?
As one or the other is not at all conducive of hours a company can profit. Its many times more than just hardware or software by itself only as means to determine what's making said company money. Its very narrow in scope to look at it that way.
I AM BOLO
100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...
ps:
Proud psOne/2/3/p owner. I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.
Sure. I'd install it as a dual-boot option. Would make using PC for PC stuff more painful though, because I'd have to reboot the thing to switch between PC and PS4 stuff.
joeorc said:
Yes, the outcome indeed has yet to be seen, but with Sony directly involved in The Android OS developments with such functionality they employ to be added, its a very good chance in my opinion that it will have great expansion into the market. For example. When I pointed to PC that was also pointing to SteamOS mainly 1st option reading being. Android OS's main graphics Api is Vulkan, As is SteamOS's also. Both Use Vulkan, now that of course would not exclude windows OS based PV's , because Vulkan also works in Windows OS also. But most likely due to code once port to all Vulkan devices.. If the developer would want to take advantage of DirectX12 functionality benefits under windows they may would want to tweak to use Microsoft's Api , but could very well just use Vulkan only. Since Android & Steam and hell even Sony use Vulkan as a graphics Api. With many games on steam now being ported to run on steamOS now also and not just windows only , having AndroidOS on top of SteamOS that are employing Vulkan would allow developers to code once and reach Windows, steamOS, and AndroidOS devices in one fell swoop. |
I agree. Another thing I find interesting is the psvue. I ignored this as well up until a couple months ago, I'm sad to say due to comments sections and game site writers being so negative on it, and wow, I love it!
i did the trial and immediately pulled my bills after it ended. My service at the time totaled $70 a month more than 50/50 Internet and psvue combined would cost me. I pointed this out and the service offered a discount but were still going to be roughly $40 more a month. This was with less features than psvue offered because it was minus DVR and one box, meaning one tv, after being a long time customer.
My wife used the iPad to watch our old service and loved the psvue app more as well as the psvue interface being much snappier, intuitive and responsive. So I took the plunge and I love it. Works great (again large market so I might be near servers) and I love this unlimited dvr! It's like Netflix for tv. I will save $700 this year on the switch from what I was paying and lost nothing I watched in the process except ESPN which they announced a new deal with on psvue.
I'd recommend anybody in a large market to check out the trial and price compare as you might be surprised. I'm embarrassed I fell prey to the Internet hate on it.
l <---- Do you mean this glitch Gribble? If not, I'll keep looking.
I am on the other side of my sig....am I warm or cold?
Marco....
Zkuq said: Sure. I'd install it as a dual-boot option. Would make using PC for PC stuff more painful though, because I'd have to reboot the thing to switch between PC and PS4 stuff. |
Well, maybe not, there is windows OS 10 having Android Player App. If Sony created PlayStation now as a APK for any Android Device which it pretty much already is..than you would not have to reboot.
If you are talking a full on Gamer OS for PC, than yeah I could see that, but if they did, most likely scenario would be a forked version of Android OS designed from the get go to be playstation centric.
PlayStation now, playstation Vue, remote play, PlayStation messenger App, PlayStation store access app. And its still full Android OS so playstore etc. Like Amazon fire devices just side load google playstore like you can on Amazon fire tablets. Sony's next handheld I can see ending up this way.
Since dual shock 3&4 support is already there for xperia and SmartTV's like Sony's own and Samsung, moving PlayStation to silicon valley's HQ was most likely spurned on by these & other developments.
I AM BOLO
100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...
ps:
Proud psOne/2/3/p owner. I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.
joeorc said:
I know its really a "both" answer. You can sell cheaper hardware for higher price to profit, or you gain more install base which means you profit off of the base for buying software or content your company provides. Either from deals you make to profit share, or license agreements, or hosting service's or advertising profits from your own ad agencies income. One part may post more profit, but you may still profit from all the ways listed. Trying to have a "framed" argument as this Where is the real (only) profit in gaming? Hardware or software? As one or the other is not at all conducive of hours a company can profit. Its many times more than just hardware or software by itself only as means to determine what's making said company money. Its very narrow in scope to look at it that way. |
If Sony started doing that, it could be bad for their business, as people wouldn't need to buy a PS4 to play some of their games anymore and could just satisfy that need on PC, but that would be profit on software.
Though if I could play their games on PC, I'd be more willing to, haha...
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No I wouldn't because I'm more than happy with my ps4 as it is. I'm not graphics obsessed and the good ps4 performance for me is more than good enough. Hell ps3 games still play fine for me.
Lrdfancypants said: I agree. Another thing I find interesting is the psvue. I ignored this as well up until a couple months ago, I'm sad to say due to comments sections and game site writers being so negative on it, and wow, I love it! i did the trial and immediately pulled my bills after it ended. My service at the time totaled $70 a month more than 50/50 Internet and psvue combined would cost me. I pointed this out and the service offered a discount but were still going to be roughly $40 more a month. This was with less features than psvue offered because it was minus DVR and one box, meaning one tv, after being a long time customer. My wife used the iPad to watch our old service and loved the psvue app more as well as the psvue interface being much snappier, intuitive and responsive. So I took the plunge and I love it. Works great (again large market so I might be near servers) and I love this unlimited dvr! It's like Netflix for tv. I will save $700 this year on the switch from what I was paying and lost nothing I watched in the process except ESPN which they announced a new deal with on psvue. I'd recommend anybody in a large market to check out the trial and price compare as you might be surprised. I'm embarrassed I fell prey to the Internet hate on it. |
Roll out for nation wide is 2016 & 2017
They are adding city's as they go. And the three packaged offers are pretty good for price points adding ESPN, and all of Fox programming for mid tier pricing was a surprise to me, because they just added Disney & ESPN early this year.
Their goal was to sell bite size programming chunks like stations you want pick and choose, they will be able to do that over time , but right now the deal was set like cable companied for the most part you have to take the entire block of programming. Which does take the price & increase its base, but still less than $80.00 a month for complete package which is less than many cable providers/month for what's offered.
I AM BOLO
100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...
ps:
Proud psOne/2/3/p owner. I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.
Cloudman said:
If Sony started doing that, it could be bad for their business, as people wouldn't need to buy a PS4 to play some of their games anymore and could just satisfy that need on PC, but that would be profit on software. Though if I could play their games on PC, I'd be more willing to, haha... |
Not so fast , there think about what I pointed out. The playstation console itself is not being replaced by PS now, what Sony is doing is turning the TV itself into a PlayStation remote play node! You still will need a PlayStation console for at least one of your TV's
What Sony is doing is actually pretty clever.
They are instead of trying to replace the console itself. Instead Sony is adding in the TV to be accessible Node for the playstation console itself.
Best way to describe it.
Take a piece of paper, draw a picture of a TV.
Now under the TV put three columns.
One column for Microsoft, one for Sony & one for Nintendo.
Now in the column have console written in each column, draw an Arrow to the TV. But put Android OS written on the TV, circle TV now draw an arrow to Sony's column only.
Think about this for a sec. Instead of having to put a console under every TV in your household you can stream content from one single PlayStation console to any number of TV's in your house. But Also smart phones, tablets or PC's that still require a Playstation console. Or use online servers.
The key point is playstation is the center hub, smart devices that included the TV itself are being turned into playstation nodes.
Nintendo & Microsoft are not turning the TV itself into a Nintendo or Microsoft Node for their Eco system its still trying to put a box under every TV.
The TV. Is now a general use compute device without needing a console. But having one console box being able to stream to all TV's in your house, but the TV itself having playstation software inside the TV from the getgo is the point.
Its being Absorbed into Sony's PlayStation Eco system, not excluded by having to have a box under every TV. Long term goal is what all TV's are all SmartTV's being produced Sony's PlayStation Eco system is already inside your TV itself.bthst by adding a PlayStation console to just one of your TV's allows them all to work in conjunction.
I AM BOLO
100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...
ps:
Proud psOne/2/3/p owner. I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.