Locknuts said: I wasn't implying that they fudged the numbers. I was implying that they really don't understand the systems of the atmosphere enough to even make accurate computer models predicting future warming. They seem to have acknowledged this in the latest assessment report and aren't making computer model predictions anymore. In fact they really seem to have toned down the alarmism overall. I'm not sure if this is reflective of the latest evidence showing less need for alarm or if they have weeded out some of the activists that were authoring previous reports. |
In other words, you were making assertions without any substantive evidence, on the basis of incomplete understanding of what you're talking about.
Basically, the exact same thing you accuse them of.
You are referring to the "assessment report" - what you have to realise is that, while it's being informed by scientists, it's a political report. It's a report that is released in order to influence policy, on the basis of science. And after 10 years of them saying "major catastrophe if we don't act" and getting no real reaction from policy-makers, it shouldn't surprise you that they stop wasting space in the report with the part where they try to emphasise the importance in that way. They instead leave it all in more scientific terminology, and let scientists within the major governmental science organisations explain it.
The IPCC, which I have no doubt you're thinking of when you refer to "assessment report", isn't a scientific research body. It's a scientific aggregation body. They take research from other sources, and combine them into a report.
Here's an experiment for you - go to Google Scholar (scholar.google.com.au) and search for "climate model prediction". Then restrict the search to "Since 2015". At the time of my posting this, there's "about 63,600 results". Of course, many of these aren't quite what we're looking for - predictions of impacts of climate on cotton yields in Greece, for instance. But there's more than enough to demonstrate, even at a glance, that they're most certainly still doing it.
The reason you don't know about it is that the news isn't going to go "This just in, the predictions haven't changed". And as I recall, the main change in the IPCC report was aligning their reported numbers to the more standard reference confidence levels, rather than the more arbitrary levels they were previously using (it's standard to use 95% confidence, representing approximately two standard deviations, but they were using 90% confidence, which is something like 1.8 standard deviations). A higher confidence level produces a larger confidence interval, so the resulting lower bounds were lower (still showing warming, though).
The fact that you keep throwing phrases like "alarmism" and "activism" shows me, though, that you're not going to listen to what I'm saying. Note that I'm more of an expert on this topic than most here, having a PhD in mathematical physics specialising in fluid flow and heat transfer. I haven't actually done climate modelling, so I wouldn't actually call myself an expert, but I have the tools necessary to completely understand the models at a fundamental level. But I'm sure you're confident in your understanding, on the basis of having read two or three abstracts and a heap of articles by anti-science people arguing that the climate isn't changing because it was hot yesterday where they live.