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We just haven't find the system to replace with ,I hope we do it before it's too late.



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I believe it's matter of poor countries with big population that make this figure as shocking

a fair figure would exclude those undeveloped countries, as the world's richest obviously make their money from developed countries, where the people are wealthy enough to pay for their goods/services/entertainment, so there is a balance (more or less) that cannot be broken (unless we go back to slavery)

the world's poorest can survive without microsoft, telecom and facebook, which are good examples of the services that the world's richest provide, so it is not as bad as it sounds

and most importantly, world's richest are also some of the world's biggest philanthropists, "Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation" for example



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NYCrysis said:
Nirvana_Nut85 said:


Unfortunately, the backbone of every empire to ever exist came from slavery and stolen wealth/land. 

 

Sorry, you should learn Indian history. India didn't have slavery, nor it's inhabitants ever wage a war on any other nation. Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism, and Jainism all gave birth in India while buddhism spread throught asia by trade and peaceful contact. And since their inception, those religions have accepted eachother and others, until Islamic Conquests (1200-1700) and British Colonialism (1700-1800) sent India (and China) in a way back a 1000 years. All the while generation of Indians, and Africans were being supressed and forced to basically make colonists rich, yes in fact it still is true, why is it that europe and and america own more wealth than all other races, when for the majority of humanity asia was the superpower? Before Europe and Islamic people started interfereing with their affairs with swords and guns ablazen. This article's maps proves my point: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2008/09/map_of_the_week_global_wealth.html

That is not actually factual. Although not to the extent of other countries, there was slavery in pre-islamic India. Here is an article that details the history of slavery in India. http://www.importantindia.com/1089/slavery-in-ancient-india/ This was prior to Islamic or colonial invasions. 
Also around 500 A.D is when they started bringing in African slaves who were the lowest in the caste system.

There are also accounts of pre colonial and islamic wars in Ancient India as well. The Kalinga war as an example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalinga_War. Which was fought for "economical" and "political" reasons which basically spells out a land grab.

Europe  owns the majority of the wealth due to the simple fact that they were more technologically and militarily advanced from the Renaissance on (which once America was established, followed the same suite). It has nothing to do with Religion.  It has everything to do with power and if these Asian countries had the same capibilities, they would have done the same thing. 



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Stop complaining you lazy socialist!! I was born In Africa, at 5 I was herding elephants for 10 cents an hour, I work hard and now I live in the freest country in the world and I make more than 2$ an hour. Also it's not like this is new it as been like that since the beginning of Time.



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The world population is 7.3 billion today back in 2012 it was 7.05 billion that 250 million extra people in the last 3 years isn't because of developed countries.

As long as the poorest people keep having more kids then the wealth they have will decrease per person nothing is being taken from them.

Sub-Saharan Africa's population is predicted to go from below 1 billion today to over 2.2 billion by 2050 that's only 35 years and worse in most countries as people get wealthier and see an increase int their life expectancy they have less children but in Africa they are having more, completely different to trends seen in India, China, south east Asia and Latin America.



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Things that make rich people rich: Smart work, Dedication. Investing. Long hours. Sacrificing when they are younger. Marriage and family. Things that make people poor: Smoking weed. Breeding. Dropping out of school. Laziness. Buying stuff they can't afford. Party time 24/7. Yolo. If you can't afford to support yourself, don't breed others into your mix. Think of a Doctor. No party in HS, good grades. No party in College. 10 years to get degree, mega loans owed. Live lite for 10 more years to pay back loans. 38 years old and now you can start to live. All those years of dedication and sacrifice equals rich for the rest of your life. And then some lazy weed smoking breeder come along and wants your money because he is poor because he partied his 20s and 30s away...



Wiibaron said:
Things that make rich people rich: Smart work, Dedication. Investing. Long hours. Sacrificing when they are younger. Marriage and family. Things that make people poor: Smoking weed. Breeding. Dropping out of school. Laziness. Buying stuff they can't afford. Party time 24/7. Yolo. If you can't afford to support yourself, don't breed others into your mix. Think of a Doctor. No party in HS, good grades. No party in College. 10 years to get degree, mega loans owed. Live lite for 10 more years to pay back loans. 38 years old and now you can start to live. All those years of dedication and sacrifice equals rich for the rest of your life. And then some lazy weed smoking breeder come along and wants your money because he is poor because he partied his 20s and 30s away...

surely finding some balance between those 2 extremes would lead to the happiest and most fulfilling life





MTZehvor said:
hershel_layton said:

Of course it'll take long if we wanted to fix the issues in undeveloped countries. However, think about the religious countries- give them some education, internet, etc, and think how many of them will stop resorting to their superstition beliefs. There can be potential for the production needed to become a developed country. I mean, let's face it. No matter how many times a person from Africa reads their Bible, it won't solve anything. Though, some education is what's needed to make actual change.

 

What you're saying has been tried before; many, many times over. Attempts have been made by Western governments, charities, the UN, missionaries, non profits, etc. There are two major roadblocks in the way, however.

Number 1 is actually getting the funding for these programs to the right people. Giving funding to governments rarely works, as, more often than not, the majority of the money will simply be taken by less than reputable "public servants." You can try and bring the supplies over yourself, but for things like education, that's extremely difficult to do. You need to either relocate teachers from Western countries (who also need to be well versed in the culture of the country they'll be teaching in, and believe me, there aren't many of those around), or train people to be teachers from the nation in question. The latter is what most attempts have tried, and it's extremely time consuming, extremely costly, and rarely successful, because the schools are still poorly funded, and because...

Number 2: Everything's interconnected. Simply providing better schools, for instance, in an underdeveloped country actually does very little because simply being able to go to school is often considered a luxury. Living conditions are, obviously, awful, many kids have to walk miles to school, and their ability to study at home is severly limited. Lower class American children, who are considered to oftentimes be incapable of escaping their circumstances due to their poor start in life, are far better off than these kids. Improving the schooling won't do much until the entire society is improved. Roads need to be built, easy transportation to school and back needs to be provided, basic utilities need to be installed so that parents/kids spend less time doing chores and more time helping their kids learn/study. And there's no way to do that without going through the governments of the nations involved, which, as mentioned before, are usually highly corrupt and unlikely to actually work with any sort of project.

I suppose it's basically a "we're screwed" thing. Brings me back to the original point i made before- I was worried that nothing would change.





 

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12/22/2016- Made a bet with Ganoncrotch that the first 6 months of 2017 will be worse than 2016. A poll will be made to determine the winner. Loser has to take a picture of them imitating their profile picture.

I know a lot of people are correcting me. I don't have a lot of time to respond to everyone, so here's a general response to 99% of these posts-


Yes, no amount of work in an average lifetime can justify BILLIONS for one human. And yes, I know that no matter what we do, there seems to be no way to fix underdeveloped countries. As much $$$ and resources we send, corrupt governments always ruin the chances they get. I guess a topic such as this makes me point back to my original point I made. What was my original point? Fear that nothing will change.

Then again, the reason why more poor people keep appearing is because people keep making kids! I don't see why people financially incapable of having a family still proceed to have kids. It makes no sense. It's worse when you see poor families with 6+ kids.

So what idea do I have to solve this? Nothing! As I said, I'm not that smart when it comes to economics. I'll let a person smarter than me attempt to solve this. I'll probably only make things worse



 

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12/22/2016- Made a bet with Ganoncrotch that the first 6 months of 2017 will be worse than 2016. A poll will be made to determine the winner. Loser has to take a picture of them imitating their profile picture.

Doing a worldwide comparison and pretending that the cost of living is the same everywhere is stupid.



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