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How will Zelda U fair sales wise?

Buck the trend and be a hit? 105 75.00%
 
Follow the pattern and be... 35 25.00%
 
Total:140
Pavolink said:

Seriously. If this game comes only on Wii U, do you really believe it is going to sell less than 1.5M?

 

Nope. Not unless we have an extreme TP situation repeated.

Do you?

I merely posed the question because of the interesting fact that all other entries have dropped in sales on the same console.

We're talking about 30th years here not one or two examples.



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what kills your theory is that generally when the 'second' Zelda outting on a console failed it was a rehash/release. AKA Twilight Princess on the Gamecube was squeezed onto the Gamecube but clearly primarily destined for the Wii at that point,  Wind Waker HD is a remake, Ocarina of Time 3D (3DS) remake, etc. etc. etc.

no mainline Zelda game on console has ever faired particularly poorly next to another Zelda game, except for Majora's Mask (which was just a massive departure from Ocarina).

Zelda Wii U will do awesome. there is massive anticipation for the next home console Zelda game, especially after Skyward Sword was such a departure in terms of certain traditional things (art / style). 

The real question I would ask at this point is not whether the game will sell well (it will), but whether or not it will in fact be released on the Wii U OR the next Nintendo system

if the game were to release both on the NX and Wii U at the same time then arguably the title would no longer really be a priority Wii U one nor would it be 'Zelda Wii U'.

if it exclusively comes out on the Wii U it will probably have something crazy like a 40% attach rate



mountaindewslave said:

no mainline Zelda game on console has ever faired particularly poorly next to another Zelda game, except for Majora's Mask (which was just a massive departure from Ocarina).

 

The NES and Wii sequels had similar drop offs to Majora's though.

Liek you say though I think it comes down to being a Wii U exclusive or cross Gen ala TP.



retroking1981 said:
Pavolink said:

Seriously. If this game comes only on Wii U, do you really believe it is going to sell less than 1.5M?

 

Nope. Not unless we have an extreme TP situation repeated.

Do you?

I merely posed the question because of the interesting fact that all other entries have dropped in sales on the same console.

We're talking about 30th years here not one or two examples.

 


yeah but a lot of the examples were Nintendo experimenting or a RERELEASE of some sort 

Zelda II vs. The Legend of Zelda (NES), totally different style of games, Nintendo experimenting

Majoras Mask vs. Ocarina of Time (N64), totally different structured games, again arguably experimenting (although it did well considering when it was released)

Twilight Princess vs. Wind Waker (Gamecube), pushed off Zelda title prioritized for the Wii. not really a Gamecube Zelda title at all in the sense that it was released incredibly late and the Wii version obviously was the one that took off becuase of that

Skyward Sword vs. Twilight Princess, insane departure from the traditional Zelda, lots of risks, again Nintendo experimenting with forced motion control plus features (bear in mind this game required an updated controller, motion plus, to function on the Wii which put off a lot of users. frankly this Zelda entry was more likely created with the intention to push the motion plus controller than it was to actually sell a ridiculous amount of that particular software title)

and then obviously potentially Zelda Wii U vs. Wind Waker HD

A) the pattern is completely broken as none of the other home console Zelda releases in a generation had a remaster come out prior to the main new entry. and B) the hype for a remaster is ALWAYS like a fraction of what it is for a new edition to a series

to imply that there is some sort of genuine pattern going on here is absurd and to not even notice that Wind Waker HD is one of the ONLY home console big release/remakes done in the Zelda series is odd. what exactly would you compare Wind Waker HD to? the only other times that Nintendo rereleased their prior Zelda mainline games on home consoles were for special preorder bundles (Master Quest, Zelda/Collectors for Gamecube)

I suppose I find this whole question and thread quite strange because Zelda Wii U is by far the most hyped Nintendo game these days and has been for years

Its also strange because no mainline Zelda home console game released after a significant break has done badly (i.e. The Legend of Zelda, A Link to the Past, Ocarina of Time, Wind Waker, Twilight Princess)

Majora's Mask and Skyward Sword were squeezed in and debatably less resources were put into them than their immediate predecessors 



Added my opinion to the OP.

This thread was created with the intent of hearing other opinions, the title is a question afterall. Its not a 'look at this pattern, its gonna bomb' LOL statement.



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retroking1981 said:
mountaindewslave said:

no mainline Zelda game on console has ever faired particularly poorly next to another Zelda game, except for Majora's Mask (which was just a massive departure from Ocarina).

 

The NES and Wii sequels had similar drop offs to Majora's though.

Liek you say though I think it comes down to being a Wii U exclusive or cross Gen ala TP.

 


right, but Zelda II and Skyward Sword were extremely experimental and somewhat departures from their predecessors. They also appear to have had considerably less development time

I mentioned this in another post, but again, bear in mind that Skyward Sword was a late released and REQUIRED a motion plus controlller. Meaning to play Skyward, Wii users had to pick up a motion plus controller (so that's an added cost).

I just don't think there's a genuine pattern here. Twilight Princess and The Legend of Zelda are pretty much universally considered better games than Skyward Sword and Zelda II  AND were released earlier... that's why they sold better

Zelda Wii U is a mainline Zelda game with tons of expectations and hype. if its a good game then it will sell well regardless of if its on the Wii U or NX. no Zelda mainline game with this much time invested as done poorly (again Majora's Mask and Zelda II were arguably somewhat rushed)



Twilight Princess was released on GameCube and Wii and is logically, the best selling Zelda ever. If Zelda U is sold on NX and Wii U, it can't flop.



retroking1981 said:

Added my opinion to the OP.

This thread was created with the intent of hearing other opinions, the title is a question afterall. Its not a 'look at this pattern, its gonna bomb' LOL statement.

 


well your title has a sort of suggestion that doesn't really have any backing from that data

it takes an inconsistent pattern to try and make a point. Twilight Princess was released primarily on the Wii. Majora's Mask is a hard game (for the casual kid) and was somewhat rushed. Zelda II is not a great game next to LOZ and came out the very next year. Wind Waker HD is a re-release and frankly something people were not really clamoring for at this point

for all intents and purposes Zelda Wii U IS the first Zelda game on the platform



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