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Forums - Sales Discussion - December 2015 NPD Thread! PS4 and XBO exclusives LTD up!

poklane said:
Boutros said:

NPD DATA:

  Hardware:

PS4 + XBO + WiiU = 3.067m

I think that's revenue and not units sold, at least that's how this sounds to me:

"All of that offset a 4 percent increase in spending on PlayStation 4, Xbox One, and Wii U."

"Spending" sounds like revenue to me.

Edit: OP already got updated

Yeh, that's way too low. It's more than that. 





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Wow, GTA still selling strong!



poklane said:
"I would have thought of about 50 other games before I'd have guessed #9 this month."
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=192214136&postcount=1410
Knack is back, you all better believe it!

You guessed wrong





duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Shadow1980 said:
DonFerrari said:

Can I tell you the truth? No one likes you around here.

B-b-but I qualified for the 2015 VGChartz Greatest User Tournament, and I even got 94 points. Some people like me.

They like your graphs not you. They are just using you. You have no Mojo.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

poklane said:

PS4+XB1 = 2.9mil if this guy's math is correct http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=192222426#post192222426

I have PS4 + XBO after 25 months at 20.612m by looking at all previous months.



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poklane said:

PS4+XB1 = 2.9mil if this guy's math is correct http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=192222426#post192222426


~2.9m
just do the math with 46,6% or 47,4%

will be a decent difference. but as i said one insider on neogaf already fonfirmed, that xb1 + ps4 is between 2.85 and 3.15m ;)





BraLoD said:

What am I misunderstanding?
Selling software is the main profit outcome to hardware developers as well, breaking records in selling software is undoubtly a mark of a good month for everybody.

The user base for every console will be higher now than it was 12 months ago, be it Wii U or Ps4 or Xbox one, ergo its common logic to assume they will sell more software on a platform, and set a 'record breaking month', if they didnt sell more software with a larger userbase then that would be an absolute disaster.

Heres my prediction next year, these platforms will also break records (SHOCK), though perhaps the NX will launch and then the Wii U perhaps not as people will migrate from the Wii U to the NX but definietly the XBox One and PS4 Dec 2016 will sell more software than Dec 2015





Hiku said:
Nintendo PR: "Dat Wolf Link amiibo tho."

Very insightfull

BraLoD said:
DonFerrari said:
Shadow1980 said:

B-b-but I qualified for the 2015 VGChartz Greatest User Tournament, and I even got 94 points. Some people like me.

They like your graphs not you. They are just using you. You have no Mojo.

We like Shadow more than we like you, Don.

Of that I have no doubt... but that is still no one liking him.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Shadow1980 said:

 The first three Gears games did pretty well. They all charted in the Top 10 for their respective release years (2006, 2008, & 2011). Nothing has really hit the series in a way to cause it to bleed a large audience like what has happened to Halo.

Halo is an interesting case. It was once a massive seller. But Halo 5 saw a ~70% drop from previous games for launch month sales. I think this is symptomatic of a general malaise that began afflicting the series since Bungie left MS and was replaced by 343 Industries. 343i's first act was issuing a divisive title update for Reach (I personally hated it). Then Halo 4 did something (perhaps various gameplay changes) that drove off its multiplayer population in rapid order. It took less than two months for it to fall out of the top 3 most played games on XBL, within six months it had already fallen out of the top 5, and within a year it had already dropped out of the top 10. Meanwhile, it took Reach almost a year to fall out of the top 3, and it hovered at #5 to #6 until Halo 4 came out. Halo 3 stayed in the top 3 until Reach came out. Halo 3 and Reach both dealt with competition for time with many other games, including the annual releases of COD, AC, and the various sports games, as well as miscellaneous other big titles released in their heydays. Halo 4 obviously had something specific to it that caused players to leave in droves. Personally, I played Halo 4 considerably less than I did prior Halo games, and that's because I simply didn't like many of the changes 343i instituted.

Then the Master Chief Collection happened. Matchmaking was utterly broken for months. It was finally fixed, and once it was it was really fun, but the damage had already been done. While 343i promised to make right by players in Halo 5, what we got was a mixed bag. The game functioned fine at launch, and matchmaking finds matches very quickly. 343i also kept their promise of bringing back the level playing field that defined the series' multiplayer but was ditched in Halo 4 in favor of COD-style rank-based unlocks and custom loadouts. But at the same time they radically changed the core movement mechanics of Halo (thruster packs, ledge-grabbing, and sliding, among other things, are all default abilities now, and it drastically changes the way Halo 5 plays compared to the other games) and they tossed out split-screen in order to attain that Holiest of Holies in modern game design: a 60fps frame rate. The lack of split-screen alone was enough to discourage two friends of mine from even buying the game. I bought it, played the campaign once, played a fair amount of multiplayer for the first few weeks, but now I'm already tired of it. It's like Halo 4 all over again. I just don't care for the gameplay changes, and I don't feel the same compulsion to play every day like I did with Halo 2, 3, and Reach.

I think a lot of people have just been burned one too many times by 343 Industries. It's the only plausible explanation for the massive drop in sales. Now, by general AAA standards, Halo 5 still did well, but by Halo standards those sales figures are just pitiful. Time will tell if 343i can win back the audiences they've lost, but if Halo 6's sales aren't appreciably better than Halo 5's, I think it's safe to say that the days of Halo being a massive sales juggernaut are officially over.



Interesting point. 





My bet with The_Liquid_Laser: I think the Switch won't surpass the PS2 as the best selling system of all time. If it does, I'll play a game of a list that The_Liquid_Laser will provide, I will have to play it for 50 hours or complete it, whatever comes first. 

Shadow1980 said:
DonFerrari said:

They like your graphs not you. They are just using you. You have no Mojo.

Bratzley have just defended you.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."