humans are a bipedal species - that is or is not the case? keep in mind of course that there was a girl born with 4 legs in india recently

Which is exactly my point. You're type of generalizing viewpoint would have left that out of the question. My viewpoint accepts everything into question because I don't care what is more likely, I care what is.

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so you don't see a problem in using sickness to back your argument? it boggles my mind how you don't see the similarity between yourself right now and a religious person with the constant ridiculous rationalisations to support a proposition that has no basis in reality

No I don't see a problem with it when women can seem just as normal as other women who have as much testosterone as other men.

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do i really have to go into why its nonsensical to compare male babies to grown sick women? seriously?

I'm not asking you to to compare male babies to grown sick women...

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all religious beliefs that do not comply with reality

http://www.uphs.upenn.edu/news/news_releases/2013/12/verma/

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-athletes-way/201312/brain-connectivity-varies-between-men-and-women

http://www.bbc.com/news/health-25198063

hahaha, oh boy. Those three links are all based on the same studies btw, I have already read them. These studies came to the conclusion that generally speaking women and men will have different lateralization of cognitive functions which may lead to different behavioral patterns. My point from the beginning is that these are just generalizations and aren't bound by sex.

Here's what other colleagues said about it, "But experts have questioned whether it can be that simple, arguing it is a huge leap to extrapolate from anatomical differences to try to explain behavioural variation between the sexes. Also, brain connections are not set and can change throughout life.

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you have been denying this all along actually

No, I have said that nothing is dependent on only one thing. Aggression is not dependent on just testosterone.

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you've claimed that just because something is present then that is all that's needed... disregarding of course that different concentrations are needed to achieve different results

When did I say that just because something is present then that's all that is needed? How many times did I say that the more testosterone a body has the more likely it is to be more aggressive? Doesn't sound like I'm disregarding different concentrations like you say I am, instead it sounds like you're taking my words out of context to fit you're agenda.

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scientists have determined the ranges yes...

I didn't ask if scientists determined the ranges.

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uh how do you think sex changes are completed and maintained after surgery? you've never heard of hormone replacement?

Oh yes I have and have never said that hormones aren't a contributing factor to such things like muscle growth or hair growth. Hormone replacement will cause more hair to grow but I'm sure you're not saying that only men have hair on their bodies. A woman is a woman regardless of her muscle mass or hair growth.

answer the question; are humans a bipedal species are not?

Human beings are a bipedal species. I loooove these questions, I've learned sooo much!!!

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well first off no because its a sickness there are radical changes that occur in the body depending on how severe it is

A sickness that can go undetected. Unless you're saying it can't go undetected.

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also the testosterone of women even with this sickness never gets close to that of a man... please leave your religion at the door because i couldn't care less about it... if you want to discuss this then please use facts not ridiculous assertions that have no basis in reality

Umm, yes they do, in fact when a female has testosterone to the level of a male, then that woman can no longer participate in the olympics. These cases exist and they aren't exactly rare. Hyperandrogenism isn't a religion, lol, neither is it a ridiculous assertion. Women can have male hormones within the male range.

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" to try to explain behavioural variation between the sexes."

meaning that they do acknowledge that there is behavioral variation... you do realise that of course?

In general, which I've stated since the beginning. My point is again, it is not bound by what sex you are. If you don't get this by now...

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i'm too lazy to be bothered to go back and check but i'm absolutely certain that you said that both men and women have testosterone so there's no difference or some nonsense like that... if you deny it so be it

uhhhh...nope!

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which means what? that a woman cannot use hormones to transition into a man?

How did you get that from what I said?

Does the fact that humans exist with more than 2 legs mean humans are not a bipedal species?

Counter question - Does the fact that human beings can exist with more than two legs mean that human beings aren't bipedal species? No, they most definitely still are human beings and this is my point. There ARE exceptions, it is not a religion like you hilariously think it is.

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as the sickness gets worse and testosterone levels rise, the symptoms of the illness become more pronounced - male pattern balding, acne, etc... shouldn't that be obvious?

In most cases it is pretty serious. But there are plenty of female athletes who naturally produce much more testosterone than the average woman. These women are capable of competing just as well as the next woman who may or may not have high testosterone. For women that aren't athletes PCOS can go undetected since they don't receive comissioned checkups.

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example please

http://breakingmuscle.com/sports/testosterone-testing-may-unfairly-target-female-olympians

http://www.thestar.com/sports/amateur/2015/07/27/court-suspends-rule-banning-female-athletes-with-high-male-hormone-level.html

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this is most pronounced ( testosterone levels approaching those of men ) in cases where people are intersexed or in other words people whose gender is ambiguous

it is a religious belief to rationalise this as somehow being a normal condition its just like my example from earlier with people being born with more than 2 legs

When did I rationalise that this was a normal condition? Just because I simply don't exclude the data their bodies provide then I am religious? lol, I thought including all data was the opposite of religion. I was using this condition as a simple example to illustrate that women can have testosterone levels in the male range, nothing more, nothing less.

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well the scientists you are addressing here are disagreeing with you "behavioural variation between the sexes" meaning all you are doing now is spewing your religion and i honestly don't want to hear it

Here's the full quote:

But experts have questioned whether it can be that simple, arguing it is a huge leap to extrapolate from anatomical differences to try to explain behavioural variation between the sexes. Also, brain connections are not set and can change throughout life.

You see, when your style of discussion meets the criteria of social media wherein you take random words from an interview and you fit them into your agenda so you may propogate falsified claims in order to make it seem like I'm being voted against...uggghhhhh, which is exactly what you have done here... This paragraph strictly states that it is a huge leap to extrapolate from the anatomical differences to try to explain what we are discussing here. In the very paragraph YOU quoted!

Nowhere does it say that behavior is bound by the persons sex. My turn. Give me an example of a way a woman can behave in which a man can't.

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"A woman is a woman regardless of her muscle mass or hair growth." seems like you are implying here that hormone therapy for sex changes is invalid

I'm sorry it seems that way to you...but I did not contextualize that hormone therapy for sex change is invalid.