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What do you think about Trump?

He's amazing! GOD BLESS 'MURICA 88 25.51%
 
Uh... wasn't he a busine... 28 8.12%
 
Ew, of course not! Especi... 123 35.65%
 
I'd like a small loan of a million dollars 106 30.72%
 
Total:345
Normchacho on 09 January 2016
contestgamer said:
Normchacho said:

 

So...I actually just think you might be a genuinely bad person. That, or you're just very shortsighted.

 

I just want what's best for America.  And illegal immigration is not.

Yeah...but it comes to a point where costs (both financial and otherwise) sort of outweigh the benefits don't they? Especially since among experts there is no hard and fast consenus as to just how bad illegal immigration is. Does it hurt wages in certain fields? Of course. But it also drives down prices in those same fields, it's why food has stayed so cheap.

Don't get me wrong, I'm for making it harder to illegally enter the U.S., but Trumps plan is too expensive and it's unrealistic. 



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Insidb on 09 January 2016
Normchacho said:
hershel_layton said:

Why do so many people care if he was Muslim!? Damn people. Being Muslim is not a race. It's not like it'll ALWAYS be a trait for you genetically!

 

Face it. He's Christian. How would Obama Bin Laden easily donate billions to Israel if he's Muslim?

 

 

 

I think he's talking about what people didn't like about Obama, whether it was true or not. You'll notice that the next sentence says he was born in Kenya.

Hillary Clinton was kind enough to start that gossip mill.





Insidb on 09 January 2016
Jimbo1337 said:
Insidb said:

I think it's more of a product them having invested HEAVILY in other campaigns and being unwilling to start investing in another campaign.

As far being self-funded is concerned, Trump's campaign has been anything but: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/donald-trump-fec-fundraising-214838

I think (I haven't checked EVERY candidate.) that only Sanders can make the "not beholden" to big donors campaign.

Take your own advice:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=7698266

Because I clearly stated that he accepts small donations and I mentioned absolutely nothing about being self-funded.  You then proceed to post a link that Donald Trump isn't exactly self-funded.  From your article, they mention that he obtained nearly 3.7 million dollars from 73,942 "unsolicited donations", which is roughly $50 per person.  Oh look!  These are small donations that I was talking about.  First read, then think, then type next time...mkay?  

You then proceed to post that "only Sanders can make the not beholden to big donors campagin" when you yourself just pointed out that Donald Trump only accepts small donations from the link that YOU posted.  

Going back to your first point:

You pointed out that big donors are "unwilling to start investing in another campagin".  Do you actually believe what you type?  I mean seriously...

Do you honestly believe that with Trump's huge poll numbers from the start, that he was unable to get ONE huge donor?  It's not like his numbers just rose dramatically like Ted Cruz in the past month or so.  Would you like me to give you links of Donald Trump saying that he rejected huge amounts of money from big donors on numerous occassions?

Reading is fundamental: I clarified the state of Trump's campaign, with respect to the commonly held belief (a byproduct of Trump's own campaign, as cited in the article) that he is "self-funded." Having clarified that, I segued to point out that Sander's campaign is the actual voter, small donation campaign. Sanders has over 2,500,000 donors, which makes Trump's 73,942 "small donors" orders of magnitude smaller and, by comparison, insignificant (For reference, that 3.7MM pales in comparison to the 20MM+ that is being spent/raised by each candidate, EACH QUARTER). Trump's MEDIA budget for the quarter was actually 20MM (in the article I linked), which vastly outstrips the donations raised. Clearly, he is getting in-kind donations and "money from big donors," as there was one explicitly cited in the article I linked (I'm starting to sense a patter here.).

Let's talk about the RNC and DNC and the donors' willingness to transition to other candidates...have you been following the election at all? Did you somehow miss how News Corp., CNN, and MSNBC have skewed coverage TO other candidates and AWAY FROM Sanders and Trump? This has been going on for months, and they have favored the candidates with the most PAC/donor endorsement and contributions. I'm not sure if you think that big, established donors have been approaching him constantly, after the party and WH made it a point to call out their lack of endorsement several times. Before we belabor campaign financing any further, please do a search and read up on current candidate financing and endorsement. The RNC has been pushing Bush for a LONG time now.

As an aside, I don't think we disagree, in principle, on Trump's current sources of funding.



Kagerow on 09 January 2016
contestgamer said:
Normchacho said:

Canada and south america needs us way more than we need them. The US is in a very unique and advtanagous position - we can crush most of the rest of the world, especially the powerless countries with minimal foreign blowback due to our control of most of the world economy and international finance systems, not to mention overwhelming military superiority. You think Canada will enact sanctions against us for crushing Mexico? We could pulverize the Canadian economy.  The fact is this is all theoretical - I guarantee the Meican government will pay up pretty quickly once we cripple their economy and perhaps even replace some of their leadership. Yes, it would cost us money to do it, but we'd just charge the Mexicans for that too - in the end they'll pay whatever we want because we could turn their economy in to a stone age trading system. It's not wrong - it's simply an incentive for them to do what Trump wants them to do.

 

First, no. You can't pulverize Canadian or Mexican economy. World consist of more country than US and even the allies of US won't follow US on the policies without gaining something significant thanks to how 'trustworthy' US acted for last 12 years. I know US citizens think that other countries can't live without them, but times have changed.

Sanction from either side is absurd, as it will go directly against their Free Trade agreement Trans-Pacific Partnership. That includes Mexico, so US can't sanction Mexico without reason either way. Changing their leader directly is a good way to start War and lose allies over sea. EU is already keeping a distance from US at the moment, countires in Asia no longer listens to US with mess they made, and Canada always had multiple strings with other countries.

Also, at the moment, illiegal Mexican immigration is net zero or less. [1] Building wall is waste of money.

 

1: http://www.rawstory.com/2012/04/study-mexican-immigration-hits-net-zero/



hershel_layton on 09 January 2016
contestgamer said:
hershel_layton said:
Also, people say he's cool for "speaking his mind".

He legit said he wants to kill ISIS and "take their oil".

I guarantee you 100% he'll probably lie and try to invade Syria, even after he "cuts the head off of ISIS".




Oh, and for the Conservatives saying I am only bashing him to suck up to another candidate, I actually hate the liberals and conservatives in this race. They all suck. They are not what a leader should be if they want to run for the most powerful country in the world.

 

So whats wrong with invading Syria?

 

Well shit. Millions of them are running away from their country. How will invading Syria help?

 

Why don't we just stop invading countries? Is it seriously that hard to have some sensitivity?



 

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NightDragon83 on 09 January 2016

Trump is basically playing the role of the court jester who speaks the un-PC truth purely from an entertainment perspective. I can't see him as POTUS material, but at the same time you can't deny his appeal to a good chunk of the population in this country.



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contestgamer on 09 January 2016
Kagerow said:
contestgamer said:
Normchacho said:

Canada and south america needs us way more than we need them. The US is in a very unique and advtanagous position - we can crush most of the rest of the world, especially the powerless countries with minimal foreign blowback due to our control of most of the world economy and international finance systems, not to mention overwhelming military superiority. You think Canada will enact sanctions against us for crushing Mexico? We could pulverize the Canadian economy.  The fact is this is all theoretical - I guarantee the Meican government will pay up pretty quickly once we cripple their economy and perhaps even replace some of their leadership. Yes, it would cost us money to do it, but we'd just charge the Mexicans for that too - in the end they'll pay whatever we want because we could turn their economy in to a stone age trading system. It's not wrong - it's simply an incentive for them to do what Trump wants them to do.

 

First, no. You can't pulverize Canadian or Mexican economy. World consist of more country than US and even the allies of US won't follow US on the policies without gaining something significant thanks to how 'trustworthy' US acted for last 12 years. I know US citizens think that other countries can't live without them, but times have changed.

Sanction from either side is absurd, as it will go directly against their Free Trade agreement Trans-Pacific Partnership. That includes Mexico, so US can't sanction Mexico without reason either way. Changing their leader directly is a good way to start War and lose allies over sea. EU is already keeping a distance from US at the moment, countires in Asia no longer listens to US with mess they made, and Canada always had multiple strings with other countries.

Also, at the moment, illiegal Mexican immigration is net zero or less. [1] Building wall is waste of money.

 

1: http://www.rawstory.com/2012/04/study-mexican-immigration-hits-net-zero/

 

Once you kick out 12 million Mexicans ou're going to need a wall to keep them out. And we can do whatever we want. Our economic and military might still holds the world hostage. Canada cannot survive without America and Europe isn't going to do anything because we're kick the crap out of Mexico. The US can break any agreement it wants, it has broken many before on climate change, on war crimes and more - nobody can hold us accountable because we're too strong to be held accountable, just like the big banks were too large to fail. That's what we are on a global level.





hershel_layton on 09 January 2016
contestgamer said:
Kagerow said:
contestgamer said:
Normchacho said:

Canada and south america needs us way more than we need them. The US is in a very unique and advtanagous position - we can crush most of the rest of the world, especially the powerless countries with minimal foreign blowback due to our control of most of the world economy and international finance systems, not to mention overwhelming military superiority. You think Canada will enact sanctions against us for crushing Mexico? We could pulverize the Canadian economy.  The fact is this is all theoretical - I guarantee the Meican government will pay up pretty quickly once we cripple their economy and perhaps even replace some of their leadership. Yes, it would cost us money to do it, but we'd just charge the Mexicans for that too - in the end they'll pay whatever we want because we could turn their economy in to a stone age trading system. It's not wrong - it's simply an incentive for them to do what Trump wants them to do.

 

First, no. You can't pulverize Canadian or Mexican economy. World consist of more country than US and even the allies of US won't follow US on the policies without gaining something significant thanks to how 'trustworthy' US acted for last 12 years. I know US citizens think that other countries can't live without them, but times have changed.

Sanction from either side is absurd, as it will go directly against their Free Trade agreement Trans-Pacific Partnership. That includes Mexico, so US can't sanction Mexico without reason either way. Changing their leader directly is a good way to start War and lose allies over sea. EU is already keeping a distance from US at the moment, countires in Asia no longer listens to US with mess they made, and Canada always had multiple strings with other countries.

Also, at the moment, illiegal Mexican immigration is net zero or less. [1] Building wall is waste of money.

 

1: http://www.rawstory.com/2012/04/study-mexican-immigration-hits-net-zero/

 

Once you kick out 12 million Mexicans ou're going to need a wall to keep them out. And we can do whatever we want. Our economic and military might still holds the world hostage. Canada cannot survive without America and Europe isn't going to do anything because we're kick the crap out of Mexico. The US can break any agreement it wants, it has broken many before on climate change, on war crimes and more - nobody can hold us accountable because we're too strong to be held accountable, just like the big banks were too large to fail. That's what we are on a global level.

 

So basically America is an asshole country that just flicks anyone off when they want to.

 

I can't argue against that. Helps people understand why a person such as Trump is so popular



 

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Kagerow on 10 January 2016
contestgamer said:

 

Once you kick out 12 million Mexicans ou're going to need a wall to keep them out. And we can do whatever we want. Our economic and military might still holds the world hostage. Canada cannot survive without America and Europe isn't going to do anything because we're kick the crap out of Mexico. The US can break any agreement it wants, it has broken many before on climate change, on war crimes and more - nobody can hold us accountable because we're too strong to be held accountable, just like the big banks were too large to fail. That's what we are on a global level.

Assuming that you can even kick out 12 million Mexicans without any resistance and loss of money - Economic power of US right now is nowhere enough to hold 'the world' hostage. Honestly, I would be amused to see deportation happening because I just know how fast they will change the tone once they realize workers who don't work tends to not steal jobs.

Economically, Canada will just do fine until US invasion, for that matter, what international agreement US broke? You mean ones that US decided to not sign because they wanted to have their little empire? It isn't that they broke them, they intentionally avoid from signing anything, but TPP is already signed regardless how toxic it is.

Also, I don't think you understand how modern war works. There is no such thing as 'too strong to be held accountable.' If a war is declared between a major powers, they both lose the moment they start them. Unless you think war is free, or you sincerely believe that active use of nuclear weapons won't end in world war.



hershel_layton on 10 January 2016

Update from OP: How the hell did 75 people actually approve of Trump?

And for the 31% wanting a small loan of a million dollars, your priorities are straight.



 

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