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Sharpryno on 06 January 2016

I mean you do realize 1080p60fps simply depends on the graphics of the game. Any game can reach that in the modern age but if you want it to look pretty, eventually it might not hit those specs if that graphics become too good.



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Miyamotoo on 06 January 2016
potato_hamster said:
Miyamotoo said:
potato_hamster said:
Miyamotoo said:
potato_hamster said:
Miyamotoo said:
 

I already wrote whats my point, Nintendo made 720p/60fps standard with Wii U for their games, with NX they will probably make 1080p/60fps standard for their games. That doesnt mean evry Nintendo game will be 1080p/60fps same like not evre Nintendo game isnt 720p/60fps on Wii U, but of most of them yes. Games like Zelda or succesor to Xenoblade X will probably be 1080p/30Fps, while games like Smash Bros, Mario Kart, 3D Mario, Splatoon, evre 2D game...will probably be 1080p/60fps.

 

Why not keep the 720p/60fps and focus on making the games look better rather than increasing the resolution.  By going to 1080p you're literally doubling the amount of pixels the system has to render. With added performance, those resources could be used for all kinds of things such as higher polygon count models, more advanced shaders, better anti-aliasing etc. That would probably be a more meaningful improvement to the average consumer, as NX Home games would clearly look better than Wii U games.

Because Nintendo games already look great in 720p/60fps and there is no sense to stay at same 720p/60fps with much powerful hardware, something similar to X1 power is around 4x times stronger than Wii U hardware. Also this gen mainstream is 1080p.

Nintendo games look great... compared to what, exactly? No one looks at a Nintendo game and says "Gee that sure gives Uncharted a run for its money visually". Now I know there are different art styles in both games, but there is so much more Nintendo can do to make their games look better even with the same resolution. Why make that push unnecessarily?

Besides. I thought Nintendo wasn't competing directly with PS4 and X1 according you many people like you.

Looks great to other games too and espacily based on hardware they running. For instance some rewivers called MK8 currently best looking game of this generation. No one will say this game looks technically impressive, but they said this game looks beautiful.

Well same could say for PS4 and X1 or any new hardware. Why!? Because if you have hardware that is much powerful than previous and you can make games running at certain resolution and frame rate, you will do that.

That doesn't meant that won't or want make 1080p games when they made great looking 720p/60fps games with weak hardware.

I'd love to find out what kind of drugs those reviewers are on to call MK8 the best looking game of this generation.

On what planet does this:
http://www.technobuffalo.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Mario-Kart-8-Wii-U-Official-Screenshots-Nintendo-001.jpg

Look better than this:
http://www.gamercenteronline.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/edcc360ae15c7b3e59fb3485b9a2f69e1f6615a3_jpg__1920x1080_q85_crop_upscale.jpg?1c368f

I mean call Mario Kart 8 beautiful all you want. It's great for what it is, but a graphical marvel it is not.

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If Nintendo still has two brain cells to smash they're trying to make a console that is cheaper than the PS4 and X1. To do that they will have to make concessions in terms of performance, especially if they're still moist over the concept of making home consoles with low power consumption. So it makes no sense to aim for the benchmarks that PS4 and X1 set. Aim a little lower than that, save some money, and give developers more resources to make better looking game rather than worrying about meeting an arbitrary resolution standard set by Nintendo.

"It's also an audiovisual wonder: the most beautiful game of the new hardware generation to date, a game that lights up your synapses as it laughs off the Wii U's horsepower deficit in a riot of colour, brilliant animation and blistering performance; a game that evokes the dazzling, long-lost wow factor of the arcade."

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-12-31-eurogamers-game-of-the-year-2014

Game in motion and live looks much better than it does on screenshots, on screenshots looks bad. Game definitely isn't technical marvel, but even with lack of AA looks beautiful, and thats why Eurogamer said that is most beautiful game of the new hardware generation to date (look date of article).

 

Nintendo probably aiming price of console around $250-300, whit that price point they can relase hardware at end of year that will be at least on power with X1, enouf power for 1080p/60Fps Nintendo games. It makes very sense if they want console that will be more attractive to third parties, similar architecture and power means easy and fast PS4/X1 ports for NX, and if you want hardware for yours 1080p/60fps games.

Like I wrote, 720p/60fps Wii U Nintendo games are beautiful, there is no sense to keep making 720p/60fps games if you have much stronger hardware.

 





potato_hamster on 06 January 2016
Miyamotoo said:
potato_hamster said:

I'd love to find out what kind of drugs those reviewers are on to call MK8 the best looking game of this generation.

On what planet does this:
http://www.technobuffalo.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Mario-Kart-8-Wii-U-Official-Screenshots-Nintendo-001.jpg

Look better than this:
http://www.gamercenteronline.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/edcc360ae15c7b3e59fb3485b9a2f69e1f6615a3_jpg__1920x1080_q85_crop_upscale.jpg?1c368f

I mean call Mario Kart 8 beautiful all you want. It's great for what it is, but a graphical marvel it is not.

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If Nintendo still has two brain cells to smash they're trying to make a console that is cheaper than the PS4 and X1. To do that they will have to make concessions in terms of performance, especially if they're still moist over the concept of making home consoles with low power consumption. So it makes no sense to aim for the benchmarks that PS4 and X1 set. Aim a little lower than that, save some money, and give developers more resources to make better looking game rather than worrying about meeting an arbitrary resolution standard set by Nintendo.

"It's also an audiovisual wonder: the most beautiful game of the new hardware generation to date, a game that lights up your synapses as it laughs off the Wii U's horsepower deficit in a riot of colour, brilliant animation and blistering performance; a game that evokes the dazzling, long-lost wow factor of the arcade."

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-12-31-eurogamers-game-of-the-year-2014

Game in motion and live looks much better than it does on screenshots, on screenshots looks bad. Game definitely isn't technical marvel, but even with lack of AA looks beautiful, and thats why Eurogamer said that is most beautiful game of the new hardware generation to date (look date of article).

 

Nintendo probably aiming price of console around $250-300, whit that price point they can relase hardware at end of year that will be at least on power with X1, enouf power for 1080p/60Fps Nintendo games. It makes very sense if they want console that will be more attractive to third parties, similar architecture and power means easy and fast PS4/X1 ports for NX, and if you want hardware for yours 1080p/60fps games.

Like I wrote, 720p/60fps Wii U Nintendo games are beautiful, there is no sense to keep making 720p/60fps games if you have much stronger hardware.

 

Well I guess the eurogamer team are on hard drugs or completely forgot about the existance of PCs.





Thunderbird77 on 06 January 2016
Miyamotoo said:

"It's also an audiovisual wonder: the most beautiful game of the new hardware generation to date, a game that lights up your synapses as it laughs off the Wii U's horsepower deficit in a riot of colour, brilliant animation and blistering performance; a game that evokes the dazzling, long-lost wow factor of the arcade."

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-12-31-eurogamers-game-of-the-year-2014

Game in motion and live looks much better than it does on screenshots, on screenshots looks bad. Game definitely isn't technical marvel, but even with lack of AA looks beautiful, and thats why Eurogamer said that is most beautiful game of the new hardware generation to date (look date of article).

 

Nintendo probably aiming price of console around $250-300, whit that price point they can relase hardware at end of year that will be at least on power with X1, enouf power for 1080p/60Fps Nintendo games. It makes very sense if they want console that will be more attractive to third parties, similar architecture and power means easy and fast PS4/X1 ports for NX, and if you want hardware for yours 1080p/60fps games.

Like I wrote, 720p/60fps Wii U Nintendo games are beautiful, there is no sense to keep making 720p/60fps games if you have much stronger hardware.

 

You make it sound like nintendo games have lesser graphics? Doesn't matter, a console releasing for $299 next year can do better graphics than ps4 at 1080p 60fps.





potato_hamster on 06 January 2016
Thunderbird77 said:
Miyamotoo said:

"It's also an audiovisual wonder: the most beautiful game of the new hardware generation to date, a game that lights up your synapses as it laughs off the Wii U's horsepower deficit in a riot of colour, brilliant animation and blistering performance; a game that evokes the dazzling, long-lost wow factor of the arcade."

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-12-31-eurogamers-game-of-the-year-2014

Game in motion and live looks much better than it does on screenshots, on screenshots looks bad. Game definitely isn't technical marvel, but even with lack of AA looks beautiful, and thats why Eurogamer said that is most beautiful game of the new hardware generation to date (look date of article).

 

Nintendo probably aiming price of console around $250-300, whit that price point they can relase hardware at end of year that will be at least on power with X1, enouf power for 1080p/60Fps Nintendo games. It makes very sense if they want console that will be more attractive to third parties, similar architecture and power means easy and fast PS4/X1 ports for NX, and if you want hardware for yours 1080p/60fps games.

Like I wrote, 720p/60fps Wii U Nintendo games are beautiful, there is no sense to keep making 720p/60fps games if you have much stronger hardware.

 

You make it sound like nintendo games have lesser graphics? Doesn't matter, a console releasing for $299 next year can do better graphics than ps4 at 1080p 60fps.

Those are some assumptions.





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Miyamotoo on 07 January 2016
Thunderbird77 said:
Miyamotoo said:

"It's also an audiovisual wonder: the most beautiful game of the new hardware generation to date, a game that lights up your synapses as it laughs off the Wii U's horsepower deficit in a riot of colour, brilliant animation and blistering performance; a game that evokes the dazzling, long-lost wow factor of the arcade."

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-12-31-eurogamers-game-of-the-year-2014

Game in motion and live looks much better than it does on screenshots, on screenshots looks bad. Game definitely isn't technical marvel, but even with lack of AA looks beautiful, and thats why Eurogamer said that is most beautiful game of the new hardware generation to date (look date of article).

 

Nintendo probably aiming price of console around $250-300, whit that price point they can relase hardware at end of year that will be at least on power with X1, enouf power for 1080p/60Fps Nintendo games. It makes very sense if they want console that will be more attractive to third parties, similar architecture and power means easy and fast PS4/X1 ports for NX, and if you want hardware for yours 1080p/60fps games.

Like I wrote, 720p/60fps Wii U Nintendo games are beautiful, there is no sense to keep making 720p/60fps games if you have much stronger hardware.

 

You make it sound like nintendo games have lesser graphics? Doesn't matter, a console releasing for $299 next year can do better graphics than ps4 at 1080p 60fps.

Of Course not, just they usually using art styles for their game that doesn't requires strong hardware in order to look beautiful. Imagine what they will achieve with much stronger hardware than Wii U, even strong like X1.





Thunderbird77 on 07 January 2016
Miyamotoo said:
Thunderbird77 said:

You make it sound like nintendo games have lesser graphics? Doesn't matter, a console releasing for $299 next year can do better graphics than ps4 at 1080p 60fps.

Of Course not, just they usually using art styles for their game that doesn't requires strong hardware in order to look beautiful. Imagine what they will achieve with much stronger hardware than Wii U, even strong like X1.

Nintendo games are pushing the graphics of their own consoles. I can imagine what they will do with much stronger hardware but x1 or ps4 power wouldn't be much stronger.





bigtakilla on 07 January 2016

I'm really starting to think the NX isn't what people think it is. Nintendo initially stated it isn't the successor of the Wii U or 3ds, and now we hear it again from that invester guy or whoever.... Specifically saying it would only have a limited impact on 3ds and Wii U sales.



Miyamotoo on 07 January 2016
Thunderbird77 said:
Miyamotoo said:
Thunderbird77 said:

You make it sound like nintendo games have lesser graphics? Doesn't matter, a console releasing for $299 next year can do better graphics than ps4 at 1080p 60fps.

Of Course not, just they usually using art styles for their game that doesn't requires strong hardware in order to look beautiful. Imagine what they will achieve with much stronger hardware than Wii U, even strong like X1.

Nintendo games are pushing the graphics of their own consoles. I can imagine what they will do with much stronger hardware but x1 or ps4 power wouldn't be much stronger.

How so? X1 is around 4x stronger than Wii U, PS4 is around 6x time stronger.



Lauster on 07 January 2016
Miyamotoo said:

"It's also an audiovisual wonder: the most beautiful game of the new hardware generation to date, a game that lights up your synapses as it laughs off the Wii U's horsepower deficit in a riot of colour, brilliant animation and blistering performance; a game that evokes the dazzling, long-lost wow factor of the arcade."

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-12-31-eurogamers-game-of-the-year-2014

Game in motion and live looks much better than it does on screenshots, on screenshots looks bad. Game definitely isn't technical marvel, but even with lack of AA looks beautiful, and thats why Eurogamer said that is most beautiful game of the new hardware generation to date (look date of article).

 Yes, end of 2014... so, a little obsolete now, MK8 is beautiful, but no longer the most beautiful of this hardware generation.

I think that expecting too much from NX is the best way to be disappointed when it will be revealed.