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Mr Puggsly said:
jason1637 said:
Mr Puggsly said:
AbbathTheGrim said:
jason1637 said:
Its not an Xbox One if it can only use the windows store.

I know what you want to say, but if they drop the Xbox name on it there's no case. It could be compared to what Sony did with PlayStation Vita and PlayStation Portable.

So kinda like Playstation TV, it could be an Xbox we pretend doesn't exist.

Anyhow, MS could just make a digital only $99 Xbox 360 and bundle it with a few notable games. It already has tons of apps and better games than competiting media boxes.

 

That dpesnt sound very smart considering the 360 has an 85m userbase.

I'm confused by your response.

The Xbox 360 is a great box for watching media even if you don't want to play games on it. So... MS could make a cheaper 360 and sell it as a media box that happens to have a fantastic library of games.

If they make a box that just support WIndows Store content, I hope its around $50. Because the Windows Store sucks for games.

1. Non-gamers(people who usually buy these devices) don't want to be associated with a gaming product. Look at the pstv.

2. The install base of the 360 is big. There won't be a market for it because there are lots of 360s in people's home so why would they want to buy a cheaper version of what they already own?

3. The 360 is too slow compared to today's standards anyway. 





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jason1637 said:

1. Non-gamers(people who usually buy these devices) don't want to be associated with a gaming product. Look at the pstv.

2. The install base of the 360 is big. There won't be a market for it because there are lots of 360s in people's home so why would they want to buy a cheaper version of what they already own?

3. The 360 is too slow compared to today's standards anyway. 



1. You're very wrong here, primarily because your example is bad. PS TV lacks many of the popular streaming apps, even some found on Vita. The popular TV media devices tend to play games as well.

2. It would be a cheaper device marketed to a more casual audience. They wouldn't sell it to current 360 users.

3. This I agree with. The interface is on the slow side.



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I never even heard of Apple TV until this thread.



Mr Puggsly said:
jason1637 said:

1. Non-gamers(people who usually buy these devices) don't want to be associated with a gaming product. Look at the pstv.

2. The install base of the 360 is big. There won't be a market for it because there are lots of 360s in people's home so why would they want to buy a cheaper version of what they already own?

3. The 360 is too slow compared to today's standards anyway. 



1. You're very wrong here, primarily because your example is bad. PS TV lacks many of the popular streaming apps, even some found on Vita. The popular TV media devices tend to play games as well.

2. It would be a cheaper device marketed to a more casual audience. They wouldn't sell it to current 360 users.

3. This I agree with. The interface is on the slow side.

1. Ok but non-gamers don't want to buy a gaming brand and naming it Xbox might confuse people.

2. Many of the 360s audience were casuals. Just look at how well the 1st Kinect did. 





jason1637 said:
Mr Puggsly said:
jason1637 said:

1. Non-gamers(people who usually buy these devices) don't want to be associated with a gaming product. Look at the pstv.

2. The install base of the 360 is big. There won't be a market for it because there are lots of 360s in people's home so why would they want to buy a cheaper version of what they already own?

3. The 360 is too slow compared to today's standards anyway. 



1. You're very wrong here, primarily because your example is bad. PS TV lacks many of the popular streaming apps, even some found on Vita. The popular TV media devices tend to play games as well.

2. It would be a cheaper device marketed to a more casual audience. They wouldn't sell it to current 360 users.

3. This I agree with. The interface is on the slow side.

1. Ok but non-gamers don't want to buy a gaming brand and naming it Xbox might confuse people.

2. Many of the 360s audience were casuals. Just look at how well the 1st Kinect did. 

 

1. Well if it uses the Xbox like some are spectulating, it should be a notable gaming device (such as Xbox 360 software support). I think we can agree on that.

2. Kinect's success was about 4 - 5 years ago. But if you're implying MS's TV device should have Kinect support, I like your thinking!



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I dont think it will be true



Dang it, AMD again? Why not risk it all and ask Intel instead (and have them develop the APU, without Nvidia)?



Mr Puggsly said:
jason1637 said:
Mr Puggsly said:
jason1637 said:

1. Non-gamers(people who usually buy these devices) don't want to be associated with a gaming product. Look at the pstv.

2. The install base of the 360 is big. There won't be a market for it because there are lots of 360s in people's home so why would they want to buy a cheaper version of what they already own?

3. The 360 is too slow compared to today's standards anyway. 



1. You're very wrong here, primarily because your example is bad. PS TV lacks many of the popular streaming apps, even some found on Vita. The popular TV media devices tend to play games as well.

2. It would be a cheaper device marketed to a more casual audience. They wouldn't sell it to current 360 users.

3. This I agree with. The interface is on the slow side.

1. Ok but non-gamers don't want to buy a gaming brand and naming it Xbox might confuse people.

2. Many of the 360s audience were casuals. Just look at how well the 1st Kinect did. 

 

1. Well if it uses the Xbox like some are spectulating, it should be a notable gaming device (such as Xbox 360 software support). I think we can agree on that.

2. Kinect's success was about 4 - 5 years ago. But if you're implying MS's TV device should have Kinect support, I like your thinking!

 

1. Yes i can agree on naming it Xbox Tv if it can play 360 games or x1 games.

2. They can get away with a $200 Xbox Tv with a Kinect. With the Kinect would give them a huge advantage over the competition. 



25 million apple TVs only, when PS4 has sold significantly more in just over 2 years. Not entirely sure these TV streaming boxes are all that big of a market worth getting into.



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This is interesting, maybe it could work out as a filler for the XB1 family as the N3DS did for the 3DS. But other than that... I don't see it winning against Apple/Google. lol



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