Chazore said:
They don't fuck up every day on a massive scale though....
That's more or less you because you dislike Valve all the way from your pov, you think they are irrelevant, incompetent and suck outright, the way I look at it like that means whatever Valve were to do wouldn't change an iota of your pov which was what led me to quoting you because I wanted to know at the core as to why because there is more to it than the usual fud.
They want to work on Steam machines to expand their market, I don't get why a private owned company is somehow never allowed to expand their horizons and yet it;s somehow perfectly ok and sensible for the likes of Sony or MS. Their Steam machines are basically deals made with other hardware manufacturers/vendors who put together their own versions of a "Steam machine" which means it;s not entirely all completely on Valve considering all the other vendors opted in since Valve doesn't own any of them to force them to do so, they all equally think there is a market out there to expand upon, if you want to have a go at Valve for expanding, have a go at all the 25+ vendors to which you'll be jabbing at a good portion of the PC realm anyway.
The Steam gamepad isn't as disastrous as you make it out to be either, it sounds like you don't like it outright while I'm keeping an open mind about it, others who have tried it find it better than the X1/DS3/4/360 pads for their games along with the ability to profile their gamepads towards their library of games, again I don't see harm or objective negativity within their decision to create their own gamepad, this didn't stop 3rd parties making their own and still making their own to this day along with each console for each gen, I don't see why Valve somehow cannot and isn't allowed to create or innovate within their own space within their own power and money, they are a private company and can do what they wish.
Valve aren't obligated to make you games all the time and pump them out one after another, if anything the past decade alone has shown how saturated some franchises have gotten with the myriad of sequel/prequels coming out along with spinoffs, Valve take their own time doing what they want and since no one owns them or shares to command what they do, they do what they want within their own time (which everyone knows is "Valve time").
I don't see why they are "notforthegamers", again I sense you are just making up reasons to hate them, especially for selling software that actually helps people to make video games, something along with other types of software they have been selling for a long time, this isn't something that suddenly popped up over night, if you've been using Steam since it started and all the way to this point you'd have noticed this. You say Valve can fade away simply because they don't adhere to your vision, I'm sorry but the world doesn't spin in such a rotation.
MS gets shit on because they abandoned PC gamers a long time ago when they sought to create a new market for themselves within the console space, you are blasting Valve for trying to do this very same thing and yet you want corp, an actual corp that's not private and is run by shareholders and pure PR to run the PC platform and represent them, I would rather not have such an apocalyptic future like that tbh, especially since MS has been documented as hampering PC gaming throughout the gens, making false promises and fucking them up and already into this new gen have they yet to deliver and they already have balls to demand we buy from their store and only game on Windows 10 while Steam allows you to buy and play across all the OS's, I find Valve to be the perfect representative of PC gaming than MS will ever hope to be and I damn well don't want my platform that's open to be run by a closed corp that doesn't give a rats ass about my platform to begin with.
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When did I ever bring FUD to the table ? It's not as if I'm some consistent troll without reasons too ...
I'm fine with them expanding on their horizons but what Valve is doing is absolutely futile. If they truly believe that giving more freedom at the expense of a better experience is the way to go then by all means nobody is stopping them. Most of the vendors offerings suck too ...
The steam controller is useless. Doesn't excel in any of the games that a regular console gamepad would and neither does it for the games that a M/KB would ...
If Valve doesn't want to make games anymore then they might as well just revoke the fact that their game developers ...
Valve really isn't for the gamers judging by the past couple years. If they don't want to make good games then they can shove off. What gamers want are GOOD GAMES and Valve hasn't recently delivered on that. That IS a vision ALL GAMERS SHARE and Valve can't even see that now ...
@Bold This isn't last decade. What Valve wants to do with the steam machines isn't even going to be remotely close to what Microsoft has done with Xbox. What Valve wants to bring to the table is definitively inferior PCs while Xbox has a very good reason to exist (Halo). Whether publicly traded or private neither are fundamentally better than the other and Valve is known as Valve Corporation officially. Shareholders are people just like you and us.
Microsoft has recently supported PC gaming more than Valve has so far. While Valve is making more failed experiments, Microsoft is giving us DX12 and former Xbox exclusive games like Killer Instinct and Gears of War: Ultimate Edition. Microsoft may not always have the best interests but at least they are far more dependable when bringing in something good than Valve is ...
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