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Rem87919394 said:
You can't say something is the best game ever and there's no doubt about it. Ps1 had plenty of games you could argue were the best ever. It's the best ever in your opinion. I thought Ocarina was a great game but not even the best game of its generation.

Everything is subjective. Gran Turismo to some was the best racing game of its time -- to others Need for Speed II was probably superior, if they wanted an arcade experience. But ultimately, what sets certain games apart is just how influential they have come to be. OoT was extremely influential, alongside Mario 64, and the two of them (alongside Tomb Raider, to a lesser extent) became the blueprints for game design in the 3D era. You may not like the game, but its game design principles are still plainly evident in game designs today. 

 

On the other hand, it is far too early to call BotW 'best game ever', as its game design has yet to be proven to beat the test of time. Given how BotW is less of a breakthrough and more of a refinement in game design, it may not always be immediately obvious how and in what way it has contributed to the game industry.

Games such as Thief, Dungeon Keeper, Populous, Mario 64, OoT, Diablo, Starcraft, Mario Bros, Donkey Kong, Tetris, etc. will always be remembered for being pace setters and creators of new trends and concepts. As we progress with the history of videogames, it is going to be less and less easy for games to make such breakthroughs. Technology alone is not enough, and the medium has largely now become similar to movies. The increasing focus on storytelling and visuals means that gameplay staples have remained in place for more than a decade and a half already.

BotW does some things new, however, including the incredible freedom given to the player, as well as the truly open-ended gameplay that lets you explore in any way you like. In the same vein, Minecraft is one of the very few 'new' gaming experiences in a very long time. 

Horizon is a good game, but to call it groundbreaking you would have to bend seriously the very definition of 'groundbreaking'. Not even BotW is truly 'groundbreaking'.



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Jumpin said:
There goes that guy's prediction.

Zelda completely outclasses Horizon both critically and commercially.

I love to make predictions that makes my chances of my prediction being true slimmer. When it becomes reality people loves it as was kinda impossible. Like PS4 selling 19 million in 2014 or Wii U not crossing 15 million mark. There is nothing to win or loose. Nothing to have a long thread or a short thread. My true prediction was that people will talk about this two and compare these two simultaneously. And people did it. In all gaming forums people talked about this two. I made my own twist by favouring Sony First Party exclusive as I am Sony guy. But my prediction came true. This thread is like a small time machine where you can compare present, past and future. That was the real purpose. Thanks.



StarDoor said:
LudicrousSpeed said:
Are there any big differences between Zelda on Switch versus Wii U? I got bored of Horizon and sold it, want to try Zelda now but fuck buying a Switch for it. I've finally started to see a steady supply of Wii U Zelda's floating around at retail, so I'll probably just jump in there.

Do you already have a Wii U? Because getting a Wii U and Zelda is only $100 cheaper than getting a Switch and Zelda ($260 vs $360), which is not worth it at all for a dead console.

Totally agree, and Zelda on Switch is still 900p, has better frame rate and offers full handheld play.



daredevil.shark said:

. But my prediction came true. This thread is like a small time machine where you can compare present, past and future. That was the real purpose. Thanks.

What prediction of yours came true? Aside from the graphical part which before the games released we knew would win



Ka-pi96 said:
wolflink said:
This place is so good for a Good Laugh.

And Ocarina of Time is the Best Game ever.
There is no doubt about it.

Only younger "gamers" whom didnt experience it back then, could tell it is overrated.

Of course BOTW is in second place.

Rookies

Experienced it back then when it was new on N64. Wasn't impressed and have had no interest in ever trying another Zelda game since.

I don't doubt your opinion, but I do doubt you presenting Ocarina being the best as a fact... cuz that's just incorrect

Then, you are just a bear with bad taste.



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RolStoppable said:
tbone51 said:

What prediction of yours came true? Aside from the graphical part which before the games released we knew would win

This one:

Sales: Horizon Zero Dawn (PS4 & PS4 Pro) > Zelda Breath of the wild (Wii U & Switch) 

This is no brainer. PS4 is the king of this generation. Plus Sony will push their first party game. So sales wise this will be a piece of cake for Horizon Zero Dawn.

But Zelda for NS and WiiU combined sold more than Horizon for PS4 and PS4 pro.

 

He was incorrect in every stretch of the imagination.



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RolStoppable said:
tbone51 said:

What prediction of yours came true? Aside from the graphical part which before the games released we knew would win

This one:

Sales: Horizon Zero Dawn (PS4 & PS4 Pro) > Zelda Breath of the wild (Wii U & Switch) 

This is no brainer. PS4 is the king of this generation. Plus Sony will push their first party game. So sales wise this will be a piece of cake for Horizon Zero Dawn.

Im surprised op didnt add this yet xD



who thought that Horizon would surclassed Zelda? Horizon is a new IP (and the first adventure game made by guerrilla), i'm very impressed by their numbers (the second one will be even better). Zelda is a known franchise with the developers having the time to perfect their franchise and learn from the others zelda they made. It is not the best game of all time like people claims but it is a great game. For me, it is lacking a great or even a good story like Horizon to be truly the best game of all time.



tbone51 said:

daredevil.shark said:

. But my prediction came true. This thread is like a small time machine where you can compare present, past and future. That was the real purpose. Thanks.

What prediction of yours came true? Aside from the graphical part which before the games released we knew would win

All of his predictions came true.  Horizon had better critic reviews and better sales.

VGChartz and Metacritic are just fake news sites run by crooked Kimishima and the mainstream media.  



JWeinCom said:
tbone51 said:

What prediction of yours came true? Aside from the graphical part which before the games released we knew would win

All of his predictions came true.  Horizon had better critic reviews and better sales.

VGChartz and Metacritic are just fake news sites run by crooked Kimishima and the mainstream media.  

Damn I must be on some serious drugs reading this. I thought you were Rol for a second lol