Zelda will definitely win metacritic. Horizon will get graphics. The wildcard will be sales.
Zelda will definitely win metacritic. Horizon will get graphics. The wildcard will be sales.
Horizon performance on metacritic directly depends on how well it can copy Zelda.
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Metascore = Zelda
Graphic = Horizon
Sales = Zelda (based on recent trailers and youtube viewers count)
| OnyxPhoenix said: 100% agree, horizon looks like one of the actual few "next-gen" games while zelda no matter its history, looks like a ps2 game ported to ps3 |
Joke?
daredevil.shark said:
There is a very good chance that Zelda will end up with a better score. But GG can outdone themselves. Nothing is impossible. |
I see. Elaborating my argument is that Horizon could end up being the better game out of the two. However I see the Zelda "stigma" will be in the reviews. The game will be rated by comparing how good it is compared to other Zelda games, and not direct competition like Horizon and Witcher, which I will hate. The reviewers will rank this better than Skyward Sword to tell us this is a better game, which is true already. But Skyward sword got an undeserved 93 meta, so I see this game easily getting 95+ even if its not worthy for it
I'M not hating on Zelda, I'm very hyped for the game and will probably get switch along with this game day one
Bet with Intrinsic:
The Switch will outsell 3DS (based on VGchartz numbers), according to me, while Intrinsic thinks the opposite will hold true. One month avatar control for the loser's avatar.
sc94597 said:
Joke? |
no, i'm serious, play any sony 1st party game then watch zelda gameplay, it's an enchanted version of shadow of the colossus graphics
I think BotW will have a better Metacritic. Zelda always gets a very high metascore.
Sales will be close.
I agree with you on the graphics. Horizon is technically more advanced, and the general opinion will probably like it better. I personally prefer the graphics of BotW though.
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| FunFan said: Horizon performance on metacritic directly depends on how well it can copy Zelda. |
Eh, I think you'll find that Horizon is a lot more inspired by games like Monster Hunter, Uncharted, Infamous, even things like Gothic and Enslaved OttW. If anything; the Zelda series has taken cues from other games in the last decade and the choice to go for completely open world is a reflection of the modern market and where it has headed for some time now.
| Mummelmann said: Why would Switch and Zelda cause damage to a PS4 exclusive? Is this like when GTA IV killed the Wii? Zelda and the Switch sales will have no bearing on Horizon, all in all. As for the rest; you'll note that neither I nor DanneSandin said that Horizon will "win" metascores, I think the exact opposite. As for sales, that's a more open one, Switch obviously won't have any significant installed base when the game releases and the Wii U installed base is very small. The best selling Zelda in recent times (as in the last decade or so) is Skyward Sword on Wii with roughly 4 million sales and Ocarina of Time on 3DS with about 4.4 million sales. The best selling ones ever are the original OoT on N64, with about 7.6 million and Twilight Princess on Wii with about 7.15 million. Ocarina of Time was just huge, beyond huge on the N64 and is the highest rated video game of all time and TP had what would become a 100 million installed base to sell to. Horizon may sell more, it could also sell less, of course. Seeing Uncharted 4 propelled towards 10 million + lifetime, one cannot underestimate the sales potential of action titles on the PS4 either. Yes, UC is an established series by a well known developer, but breakout games happen all the time and Horizon could very well be one (plus, the first UC sold almost 5 million as a new IP on a brand new platform and was in a genre that Naughty Dog were not tested in at all). |
Why would software kill a new console? That makes no sense.
You assumed that when I said "you guys" that I was assuming that you held differeing opinions, which wasn't true, I was merely mentioning an argument that neither one of you had brought up.
Actually Twilight princess sold 8.5 million on both GC and Wii, Skyward sword obviously sold less but the reception wasn't even remotely as positive as twilight princess. Do you remember the reaction of Twilight princess? It was insane and I would argue the reception of Breathe of the wild is much better. Mario kart 8 has sold 7 million on wii U, so it's not unheard of to see a game sell a lot on a lower install base.
As for GG, their best selling game sold 3 million and that was on a much larger install base than the ps4. It's certainly possible that Horizon will sell more but when it comes to exclusives on the ps4, the best selling game not made by Naughty Dog didn't even break 3 million(I'm referring to Infamous, unless I missed an exclusive).
Going back to the point about Zelda coming out a week after Horizon. Zelda completely overshadowed Horizon at E3, it wasn't even close. And it's very likely Zelda will do the same when it is released a week later.
One final point, Zelda is a series that has constantly changed over the years, and the initial reception directly effects the sales. Windwaker and skyward sword were all initally met with negativity and their sales showed it(between 3-4.5 mil sales each). While OOT and Twilight princess were initially met very positively(sales from 7-8.5 mil) and guess what the sales showed it. BOTW has had probably most positive reception of any Zelda ever, and you can bet that the sales will reflect that reception.
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