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Forbes is really making some clickbait stuff. They should hire better gaming writers... lol



Bet with Teeqoz for 2 weeks of avatar and sig control that Super Mario Odyssey would ship more than 7m on its first 2 months. The game shipped 9.07m, so I won

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kowenicki said:
OneKartVita said:
Title probably should say forbes blogger? He's using their platform rather than speaking on their behalf correct?

yep

just a blogger

a stupid blogger at that


Haha I didn't read it because I've stopped reading forbes.  They really are the bottom of the barrel most of them.



sabvre42 said:
Teeqoz said:
"In that, with this new core available for development it means that on paper the PS4 is again more powerful than the Xbox One."

I laughed at this sentence


Yeah - when i read that earlier today i laughed too. The PS4 has always been more powerful than the XB1. The only thing the xb1 has over the ps4 is an ~ 8-10% higher clock speed on the CPU. Even then, clock speeds do not necessarily equate to 100% to power.

Not according to Forbes
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2015/01/04/microsoft-opens-up-more-cpu-power-on-xbox-one/

This isn’t going to be some magic bullet for the Xbox One where suddenly they’ll come out with an ad campaign extolling their system as “more powerful than the PS4,” but if they can continue in the Unity tradition of running smoother than their competition, that’s certainly going to be a point in their favor.

Didn't you know XBox One games have been running smoother since end 2014!



Lortsamler said:
On paper it will be aprox 17% more power,but how much of that you can translate to real performance benefit is hard to tell. It all depends how fast the system can feed the CPU,and whether it will be at the expense of the GPU. That depends how fast the cache memory can operate to feed them both. It will no doubt be an improvement,but not 17%.


Well PS4 has modifications to bypass GPU cache and pass CPU commands direcly through the additonal bus, for any GPU Compute, which AMD added to the system's SOC. The amount of Cache in the GPU is allocated correctly based on AMD's design and I'm sure they added what is needed to make the most of the GPU in cache dependant portions of a workload.

How much of a system's performance is used depends entirely on optimization of your code design and that's something that only comes through iteration of it.

The CPU always had the same amount of Cache, unified for all 8 Cores, whether it's used for gaming or OS is immaterial, it's constant regardless of the job type.

In CPU dependent workloads it means that developers have an extra core, so they're less bottlenecked on those tasks, it's about 16.6% more performance in that area, the amount of cache available doesn't change just because this extra core has been made available to games.



JustBeingReal said:
Lortsamler said:
On paper it will be aprox 17% more power,but how much of that you can translate to real performance benefit is hard to tell. It all depends how fast the system can feed the CPU,and whether it will be at the expense of the GPU. That depends how fast the cache memory can operate to feed them both. It will no doubt be an improvement,but not 17%.


Well PS4 has modifications to bypass GPU cache and pass CPU commands direcly through the additonal bus, for any GPU Compute, which AMD added to the system's SOC. The amount of Cache in the GPU is allocated correctly based on AMD's design and I'm sure they added what is needed to make the most of the GPU in cache dependant portions of a workload.

How much of a system's performance is used depends entirely on optimization of your code design and that's something that only comes through iteration of it.

The CPU always had the same amount of Cache, unified for all 8 Cores, whether it's used for gaming or OS is immaterial, it's constant regardless of the job type.

In CPU dependent workloads it means that developers have an extra core, so they're less bottlenecked on those tasks, it's about 16.6% more performance in that area, the amount of cache available doesn't change just because this extra core has been made available to games.


Is your pic of the SSM game that we lost?

Great rundown of what it means when they say "Unlocked a core", you seem fairly familiar with VLSI... 



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Forbes.. Every time I see an article is coming from Forbes I refuse to open the link. I've got enough of their bollocks. They are not even biased, they are total crap.



BraLoD said:

Was Forbes always such a joke like lately?

Good grief, I come everyday to a gaming forum and I don't see any debacle about this and Forbes do?
What have I been done, I should start looking for some glasses because I'm clearly missing stuff...

Well, another day, another dolar. Forbes.


A few months ago they seemed to have higher standards, maybe they were not getting the traffic!? It has really taken a nosedive recently anyway.

In general there are very few people doing quality written work now, Colin Moriarty was one of the last people doing good work I considered worthy of being called journalism. Now, of course he is all video with the Kinda Funny crew. I normally just go to NeoGaf or skim the google news now as the reporting is so bad.

Reviews are a joke too.



Michelasso said:
Forbes.. Every time I see an article is coming from Forbes I refuse to open the link. I've got enough of their bollocks. They are not even biased, they are total crap.


Yeah, if I had your self-control...... 

I simply can't resist to see what nonsense they are gonna peddle next. Human nature.



So many fails, who pissed in this guys cereal?



There's only 2 races: White and 'Political Agenda'
2 Genders: Male and 'Political Agenda'
2 Hairstyles for female characters: Long and 'Political Agenda'
2 Sexualities: Straight and 'Political Agenda'

I wonder if the editor was half-asleep when he or she gave the okay on that.....