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Forums - Sales Discussion - Rise of Tomb Raider XBox1 = sales dud of the year?

Angelv577 on 26 November 2015

This is what happens when you make multiple bad decisions all at once.



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Symbolic on 26 November 2015

Fallout 3 launched against Guitar Hero: World Tour and LittleBigPlanet (and a week after Fable II) and sold 576,000 units in the US (400k X360, 176k PS3). Lifetime sales in the US are 4.78 million (2.95m X360, 1.83m PS3).

Tomb Raider launched against SimCity, Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm 3 and two MLB titles and sold 417,000 units in the US (214k X360, 175k PS3, 28k PC). Lifetime sales in the US are 1.30 million (770k X360, 537k PS3 (PC data is incomplete)).

So, if Fallout 3 sold 3.6 times as many copies as Tomb Raider (Fallout 3 has been on sale longer, but looks like it had significantly better legs than Tomb Raider as well judging by YoY drops), is it really surprising to see Fallout 4 massively outsell Rise of the Tomb Raider? I think the degree of the difference is a little more than most would have expected, but virtually everyone should have expected a roughly similar outcome. Tomb Raider is restricted to one current console (and not the market leader), had controversies of timed exclusivity (with confirmed PC and PS4 releases before the Xbox releases had even happened) and microtransactions and is competing with some of the largest and most hyped IPs in the entire industry (Call of Duty, Fallout and Halo).



gintama on 26 November 2015
Mystro-Sama said:
It deserves to die. This business practice needs to be discouraged.

so , SF:V need to die too ?



V-r0cK on 26 November 2015
vivster said:
I just hope SE is not surprised by this.

If SE was actually surprised by this then they all just need to quit because everybody already expected this result to happen since it was announced to be launched at the time it did.



RJ_Sizzle on 26 November 2015
pbroy said:
This will teach Phil to not be so nice about disclosing deals. Trying to be everyone's friend won't win the console wars, bitch. 😔


So being hated by everyone wins console wars?



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stpaulmagic on 26 November 2015

Nope, sales dud of the year is definitely goin to be THPS 5.



biglittlesps on 26 November 2015
gintama said:
Mystro-Sama said:
It deserves to die. This business practice needs to be discouraged.

so , SF:V need to die too ?


Its releasing on PC same day and PS4 has user base along so it will do great sales even there is no XB1 version. Also SF V happening next year beacsue of Sony support in development otherwise capcom would not made this game for another 2+ years which is not same case with Tomb raider and SE.



GAMING is not about spending hours to pass/waste our time just for fun,

its a Feeling/Experience about a VIRTUAL WORLD we can never be in real, and realizing some of our dreams (also creating new ones).

So, Feel Emotions, Experience Adventure/Action, Challenge Game, Solve puzzles and Have fun.

PlayStation is about all-round "New experiences" using new IP's to provide great diversity for everyone.

Xbox is always about Online and Shooting.

Nintendo is always about Fun games and milking IP's.

Mike321 on 26 November 2015

They made a big mistake releasing it at the same time as fallout 4



                                                                                     

jason1637 on 26 November 2015
Symbolic said:

Fallout 3 launched against Guitar Hero: World Tour and LittleBigPlanet (and a week after Fable II) and sold 576,000 units in the US (400k X360, 176k PS3). Lifetime sales in the US are 4.78 million (2.95m X360, 1.83m PS3).

Tomb Raider launched against SimCity, Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm 3 and two MLB titles and sold 417,000 units in the US (214k X360, 175k PS3, 28k PC). Lifetime sales in the US are 1.30 million (770k X360, 537k PS3 (PC data is incomplete)).

So, if Fallout 3 sold 3.6 times as many copies as Tomb Raider (Fallout 3 has been on sale longer, but looks like it had significantly better legs than Tomb Raider as well judging by YoY drops), is it really surprising to see Fallout 4 massively outsell Rise of the Tomb Raider? I think the degree of the difference is a little more than most would have expected, but virtually everyone should have expected a roughly similar outcome. Tomb Raider is restricted to one current console (and not the market leader), had controversies of timed exclusivity (with confirmed PC and PS4 releases before the Xbox releases had even happened) and microtransactions and is competing with some of the largest and most hyped IPs in the entire industry (Call of Duty, Fallout and Halo).

Its on 360 as well



DakonBlackblade on 26 November 2015

Everything about this game was handled wrong, it got nothign but bad plubicity wich is a shame since the game is actualy super awesome but ppl were so caught up discussing how terribad this exclusivity deal was and how the release of the game was time super poorly that they just didnt care. And MS distanced itself from the game imo, when they realised the backlash for the deal was massive they kinda didnt talk much about the game anymore and left it to be simply another entry on Xbox's "best game lineup ever".