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Is Nintendo finished with 3DS and Wii U after 2016?

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Naw mawn... 73 28.63%
 
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Darwinianevolution on 20 November 2015
Gamemaster87 said:
Darwinianevolution said:
Gamemaster87 said:
They aren't that dunb to replace both at the same time. That would be economic nonsense. Deal with it. 3DS is going to be replaced next year and we have probably seen every Nintendo game for it.
Wii U successor will launch in 2017 and we'll get a ton of unannounced Wii U games until then.

That's almost fact.

Actually, I think it would be the other way around. First thing to arrive is MyNintendo and mobile games. Then, the NX home console. If the NX trully is a fusion device, the handheld part will need as much power as it can get, to work well with HC software. So one year more to improve the hardware of the handheld might help to close the gap. Also, the system that needs an inmediat successor is the WiiU, the 3DS is still doing great. It's baseline is usually between 80k-110k per week, those numbers aren't low enough to need replacement.

You realize that 3DS sales are constantly falling? This platform has no future. Even Nintendo knows that. That's why they started releasing Spin-Offs and reusing engines. They don't put a lot effort in recent 3DS games. 3DS sales will be terrible in 2016. That's why they are going to replace it first. You don't trust me? Well, in one year you will remember my words while playing on your 3DS successor ;)

Well, of course it's falling, the system is reaching five years in the market. But even at its worst, 3DS sales trump over the WiiU's. Mobile might have hurt sales a lot, but the device still can sell 80-100k weekly, what is way more that what can be said for the U. They can afford making spin-offs, reusing engines and generally put less efford on the software because handheld games are less demanding, and also the 3DS has a decent 3rd party support (not perfect, but decent). 3DS sales will not be terrible. Weak? Yes, it's going to take a lot of time for the 3DS to reach something close to 70 million, but the sales won't be terrible. And even if they are, the 3DS is quickly reaching a point where everyone that might be interested in the system is getting one, so software sales will continue to be great, which is the thing Nintendo wants the most out of the 3DS.



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Mummelmann on 20 November 2015
Gamemaster87 said:
Einsam_Delphin said:


What would be dumb is still trying to make games for two seperate systems. Nintendo's recent game output supports this, seeing as only the 3DS is getting any real effort.

So, according to you it would be smart to shorten your own profit and to minimalize your company size? Never read such a huge amount of nonsense. Every company tries to expand and not to get smaller and smaller. This fusion thing is definitely not happening. You will remember my words next year ;)

Is it brilliant business strategy at this point to keep the Wii U on the market any longer? It will likely sell 2.5 million or less next year, probably down to 1.5 million in 2017; they would effectively be obliterated from home console markets and lose all presence and leftover relevance. It would be suicide, let's pray they're not that stupid.

Oh, and streamlining production and asset costs to cut expenditure and gain more longterm profits is poor business sense to you? I hope you don't teach economics. They won't shrink; they're re-structuring, for the better at that. Why have 4-5000 people working in two different and demanding boxes, increasing development windows and budgets hugely when you can have the same amount of workers programming and building in tandem with great product output and volume and greatly reduced total budgets?

It makes all the sense in the world.

I'm sure we'll remember your words next year.

PS: Not all companies can "expand and not get smaller and smaller" all the time. Or are you telling me that it was a mistake by Sony to sell their non-profitable departments and fire a large number of employees to survive as a company? The market dictates how a company responds, nine times out of ten, not the other way around. You're clearly not very good at this.



Lonely_Dolphin on 20 November 2015
Mummelmann said:

See my response above; with the first CY's sales numbers, I didn't think they would make much of an effort throughout the gen. They made most of their money on handheld gaming anyway.


Ah, that makes sense. In retrospect yeah, this shoulda been expected, but fanboy me only recently accepted that the Wii U wont be getting Animal Crossing, Paper Mario, etc.



Gamemaster87 on 20 November 2015
Miyamotoo said:
Gamemaster87 said:

I don't care for what you see pointing to a 2016 release.

You should know that Nintendo isn't a dumb company. A 2017 release for the Wii U successor is the smartest thing they can do. And if you would be smart then you would realize that it is absolutely dumb to release both the Wii U successor and the 3DS successor in the same year. Just think about it. They would have to promote both, to get people buying both and to make launch titles for both simultaneously. Nintendo hasn't the capacities to do that. That's why the 3DS sucdessor is coming first and the Wii U successor is coming after that.

Facts pointing for 2016. release, not only me.

If its same unified platform with two different devices there is no need for completely different marketing, basically they can promote both in same time. Why would people needed to buy them both, Nintendo will be happy if people choose one at launch. Launch titles will be same for both devices, that's whole point of unified platform.

And yes Nintendo has capacity for something like that, but they dont have any more capacity for launching two completely different consoles and platforms, like they were doing till now.

I don't see any "facts" pointing to anything.

And why on earth should Nintendo be happy if people buy one device? That's like if you want to only sell the half of your products. If that is happening it flop even harder than the Wii U and the 3DS.

And as I said before: no, they won't have the same games. That would be very dumb since wouldn't care for the other system.

Nintendo will release two different systems, one handheld and one home console, with at least one year in between. Face it.

You will remember my words next year and may think "I should have trusted that guy".



bigtakilla on 20 November 2015
Tachikoma said:
bigtakilla said:
You forgot Star Fox Zero, which Miyamoto (and a small team) are helping Platinum with.

Was announced in 2014.

Ah, very true. Was not shown until this year, but was announced last year. Kind of silly we can't take into consideration what is still being actively developed and we know Nintendo is working on, but yeah.

I mean let's face it, Zelda U is probably pulling a lot of resources, the restructuring of development teams has probably taken its toll, and Nintendo is probably saving the last of its game announcements going into 2017 for next year. As well as we know what Miyamoto is doing. 



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Lonely_Dolphin on 20 November 2015
Gamemaster87 said:

You realize that 3DS sales are constantly falling? This platform has no future. Even Nintendo knows that. That's why they started releasing Spin-Offs and reusing engines. They don't put a lot effort in recent 3DS games. 3DS sales will be terrible in 2016. That's why they are going to replace it first. You don't trust me? Well, in one year you will remember my words while playing on your 3DS successor ;)


Are you like completely turning a blind eye to the Wii U? That thing is in a far worse situation in both sales and software output. The reasons you're using to say the 3DS will be replaced first apply the Wii U tenfold.



Gamemaster87 on 20 November 2015
Mummelmann said:
Gamemaster87 said:
Einsam_Delphin said:


What would be dumb is still trying to make games for two seperate systems. Nintendo's recent game output supports this, seeing as only the 3DS is getting any real effort.

So, according to you it would be smart to shorten your own profit and to minimalize your company size? Never read such a huge amount of nonsense. Every company tries to expand and not to get smaller and smaller. This fusion thing is definitely not happening. You will remember my words next year ;)

Is it brilliant business strategy at this point to keep the Wii U on the market any longer? It will likely sell 2.5 million or less next year, probably down to 1.5 million in 2017; they would effectively be obliterated from home console markets and lose all presence and leftover relevance. It would be suicide, let's pray they're not that stupid.

Oh, and streamlining production and asset costs to cut expenditure and gain more longterm profits is poor business sense to you? I hope you don't teach economics. They won't shrink; they're re-structuring, for the better at that. Why have 4-5000 people working in two different and demanding boxes, increasing development windows and budgets hugely when you can have the same amount of workers programming and building in tandem with great product output and volume and greatly reduced total budgets?

It makes all the sense in the world.

I'm sure we'll remember your words next year.

PS: Not all companies can "expand and not get smaller and smaller" all the time. Or are you telling me that it was a mistake by Sony to sell their non-profitable departments and fire a large number of employees to survive as a company? The market dictates how a company responds, nine times out of ten, not the other way around. You're clearly not very good at this.


Man... I hope you don't teach economics either...

Nintendo is dead if they release a new home console next year. Nobody will care for their products. Wii U owners will buy a PS4 and noone is going to buy a NX. These guys learned from the Wii U failure and they won't release a rushed product. Wii U won't see a successor before 2017. Face it.

You will remember my words. Man, I should become economics teacher. Maybe people will then stop talking economic nonsense.



Nem on 20 November 2015

Wether they are done or not we don't know because typically Nintendo doesnt announce games until they are less than a year from release.



Gamemaster87 on 20 November 2015
Darwinianevolution said:
Gamemaster87 said:
Darwinianevolution said:
Gamemaster87 said:
They aren't that dunb to replace both at the same time. That would be economic nonsense. Deal with it. 3DS is going to be replaced next year and we have probably seen every Nintendo game for it.
Wii U successor will launch in 2017 and we'll get a ton of unannounced Wii U games until then.

That's almost fact.

Actually, I think it would be the other way around. First thing to arrive is MyNintendo and mobile games. Then, the NX home console. If the NX trully is a fusion device, the handheld part will need as much power as it can get, to work well with HC software. So one year more to improve the hardware of the handheld might help to close the gap. Also, the system that needs an inmediat successor is the WiiU, the 3DS is still doing great. It's baseline is usually between 80k-110k per week, those numbers aren't low enough to need replacement.

You realize that 3DS sales are constantly falling? This platform has no future. Even Nintendo knows that. That's why they started releasing Spin-Offs and reusing engines. They don't put a lot effort in recent 3DS games. 3DS sales will be terrible in 2016. That's why they are going to replace it first. You don't trust me? Well, in one year you will remember my words while playing on your 3DS successor ;)

Well, of course it's falling, the system is reaching five years in the market. But even at its worst, 3DS sales trump over the WiiU's. Mobile might have hurt sales a lot, but the device still can sell 80-100k weekly, what is way more that what can be said for the U. They can afford making spin-offs, reusing engines and generally put less efford on the software because handheld games are less demanding, and also the 3DS has a decent 3rd party support (not perfect, but decent). 3DS sales will not be terrible. Weak? Yes, it's going to take a lot of time for the 3DS to reach something close to 70 million, but the sales won't be terrible. And even if they are, the 3DS is quickly reaching a point where everyone that might be interested in the system is getting one, so software sales will continue to be great, which is the thing Nintendo wants the most out of the 3DS.

Maybe you can answer me that question then: What's the point of buying a 3DS in 2016? Any reasons for doing that?

No, there aren't any reasons. Every person with some sort of mind bought this system long ago and all those Spin-Offs don't get anybody buying this system now. 



bigtakilla on 20 November 2015
Nem said:
Wether they are done or not we don't know because typically Nintendo doesnt announce games until they are less than a year from release.

Agreed. If they show off the other 3 or 4 games they are working on for 2016, then they would literally have nothing to show off for E3/Directs/whatever next year that is releasing next year. Nintendo isn't going to show off all their cards for next year this year.