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Pavolink said:
KungKras said:
It's Twilight Princess in HD. It's not like it's an unknown game. What more is there to analyze?

Button layout? Which version is it? (Wii or NGC) new details (or the lack of it)? etc.

Are those details really that interesting?

I guess Zelda is a fun series to obsess over though.



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It's the worst looking 'remaster' I've seen this gen visually, but that shouldn't really be a problem in terms of sales/gameplay/fun imho.

I guess all the effort on the technical side is going into ZeldaU/NX. (which obviously looks generationally superior, on the same hardware).

In fact, if you told me the IQ/graphics from Twilight U were on a 7th gen console, I would believe you easily. The worst aspect of it to me is just the geometry and texture quality, or lack thereof.



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This one is an example, you can see that they have reworked a lot of textures and vastly improved them.



Arkaign said:
It's the worst looking 'remaster' I've seen this gen visually, but that shouldn't really be a problem in terms of sales/gameplay/fun imho.

I guess all the effort on the technical side is going into ZeldaU/NX. (which obviously looks generationally superior, on the same hardware).

In fact, if you told me the IQ/graphics from Twilight U were on a 7th gen console, I would believe you easily. The worst aspect of it to me is just the geometry and texture quality, or lack thereof.

I am pretty sure they are worse remastered this gen then TP HD, for instance Darksiders Remaster, TP HD really have big improvement of textures.



Arkaign said:
It's the worst looking 'remaster' I've seen this gen visually, but that shouldn't really be a problem in terms of sales/gameplay/fun imho.

I guess all the effort on the technical side is going into ZeldaU/NX. (which obviously looks generationally superior, on the same hardware).

In fact, if you told me the IQ/graphics from Twilight U were on a 7th gen console, I would believe you easily. The worst aspect of it to me is just the geometry and texture quality, or lack thereof.

Well, it's a remaster of a sixth generation game, it'd never gonna be great visually. There's a lot more difference between a GC game (resolution, textures...) than between a PS3/PS4 games, for example. There're not a lot of remasters this gen which come from 2 gen back, as far as I know. FFX/FFX-2 HD, I think is the only one. And you can see similar improvements (I'd say more in TPHD, but I have to analize it in more detail) in both of them. I don't think I'd buy TPHD because I have the GC version of the game, but I don't think it's an awfully bad remaster. At least they remade some textures and details, and the worst aspect of the game, the blur, is gone. So, well, I think it's a great chance to play the game from people who haven't had the opportunity to play it 9 years ago. 



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Miyamotoo said:
Arkaign said:
It's the worst looking 'remaster' I've seen this gen visually, but that shouldn't really be a problem in terms of sales/gameplay/fun imho.

I guess all the effort on the technical side is going into ZeldaU/NX. (which obviously looks generationally superior, on the same hardware).

In fact, if you told me the IQ/graphics from Twilight U were on a 7th gen console, I would believe you easily. The worst aspect of it to me is just the geometry and texture quality, or lack thereof.

I am pretty sure they are worse remastered this gen then TP HD, for instance Darksiders Remaster, TP HD really have big improvement of textures.

Haha, I didn't even know Darksiders got a remaster.

This twilight princess remaster will do it's job in terms of being a low cost effort to bring an extra title to the U, and Zelda superfans will buy it, but it really doesn't look remotely like a native WiiU title, or even in the top class of 7th gen titles. Which is fine, but let's not pretend that it's more than it is.

Zelda U looks outstanding, and really highlights the differences between putting minimal polish on a very old title, versus big budget and effort on a ground-up new title. 



Volterra_90 said:

Well, it's a remaster of a sixth generation game, it'd never gonna be great visually. There's a lot more difference between a GC game (resolution, textures...) than between a PS3/PS4 games, for example. There're not a lot of remasters this gen which come from 2 gen back, as far as I know. FFX/FFX-2 HD, I think is the only one. And you can see similar improvements (I'd say more in TPHD, but I have to analize it in more detail) in both of them. I don't think I'd buy TPHD because I have the GC version of the game, but I don't think it's an awfully bad remaster. At least they remade some textures and details, and the worst aspect of the game, the blur, is gone. So, well, I think it's a great chance to play the game from people who haven't had the opportunity to play it 9 years ago. 

That pretty much nails it. Maybe the way I said it made it seem like I was picking on Nintendo for this, but I still think it was a good idea (making the TP HD remaster).

Obviously if they remade it instead of a light remaster, it could look phenomenal, but after all, most of the Zelda superfans have already played TP, so it's a wise allocation of resources (and it looks like it's going to pay off big with ZeldaU).



Arkaign said:
Miyamotoo said:
Arkaign said:
It's the worst looking 'remaster' I've seen this gen visually, but that shouldn't really be a problem in terms of sales/gameplay/fun imho.

I guess all the effort on the technical side is going into ZeldaU/NX. (which obviously looks generationally superior, on the same hardware).

In fact, if you told me the IQ/graphics from Twilight U were on a 7th gen console, I would believe you easily. The worst aspect of it to me is just the geometry and texture quality, or lack thereof.

I am pretty sure they are worse remastered this gen then TP HD, for instance Darksiders Remaster, TP HD really have big improvement of textures.

Haha, I didn't even know Darksiders got a remaster.

This twilight princess remaster will do it's job in terms of being a low cost effort to bring an extra title to the U, and Zelda superfans will buy it, but it really doesn't look remotely like a native WiiU title, or even in the top class of 7th gen titles. Which is fine, but let's not pretend that it's more than it is.

Zelda U looks outstanding, and really highlights the differences between putting minimal polish on a very old title, versus big budget and effort on a ground-up new title. 

I agree, but problem with TP is art style that aged horrible, so because of that remastered game couldn't look too much different, to like native Wii U title it would need full remake not HD port. But for instance, WW HD looks like one of the best looking Wii U games, but that's because art style aged very good.

Zelda U is game that is build from ground for Wii U so that's completely different story, not to mention phenomenal art style.

I dont agree that TP HD will buy only Zelda superfans, even its just HD port, TP HD will make some hype and people will buy it.